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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    To each his own, I’ve seen shingles, pneumonia and the flu’s very bad effects on unvaccinated elders, so I’ll take the jabs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenyx View Post
    Your assumption is that getting vaccines would avoid these conditions. There's plenty of evidence that they would not, as well as evidence that they are harmful. For those who don't know, I actually made a thread on this here:

    The Safety and Efficacy of Vaccines | justplainpolitics.com
    Please post a link to a peer reviewed article that indicates that Covid vaccines have zero efficacy. Please post a peer reviewed article that objectively shows tihe harmful effects of Covid 19 vaccinations.

    I'll wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenyx View Post
    The notion that polio is caused by a virus at all has been disputed by a book written by doctors called Virus Mania. Quoting from it:

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    Polio: Pesticides Such as DDT and Heavy Metals under Suspicion

    Practically all of the illnesses that affected people in industrialized countries in the decades before World War II (tuberculosis etc.) ceased to cause problems after 1945. For a few years, the major exception was polio (infantile paralysis), which continues to be called an infectious disease. In the 1950s, the number of polio cases in developed countries fell drastically—and epidemic authorities attributed this success to their vaccination campaigns. But a look at the statistics reveals that the number of polio victims had already fallen drastically when vaccination activities started (see diagram 2).

    Many pieces of evidence justify the suspicion that the cause of infantile paralysis (polio) is not a virus. Many experts, like American physician Benjamin Sandler, believe a decisive factor is a high consumption of refined foods such as granulated sugar.312 Others cite mass vaccinations. Indeed, since the beginning of the 20th century, it has been known that the paralysis so typical of polio have often appeared at the site where an injection has been given.313 Additionally, the number of polio cases increased drastically after mass vaccinations against diphtheria and whooping cough in the 1940s, as documented in the Lancet and other publications.314 315 316

    Polio, like most diseases, may be conditional on various factors. It makes particular sense, however, to take poisoning by industrial and agricultural pollution into consideration, to explain why this nervous disease first appeared in the 19th century, in the course of industrialization. It spread like wildfire in the industrialized West in the first half of the 20th century, while in developing countries, in contrast, there was no outbreak.

    In the 19th century, the disease was named poliomyelitis, referring to degeneration of spinal column nerves (myelitis is a disease of the spinal cord) typical of polio.317 Orthodox medical literature can offer no evidence that the poliovirus was anything other than benign until the first polio epidemic, which occurred in Sweden in 1887. This was 13 years after the invention of DDT in Germany (in 1874) and 14 years after the invention of the first mechanical crop sprayer, which was used to spray formulations of water, kerosene, soap and arsenic.

    “The epidemic also occurred immediately following an unprecedented flurry of pesticide innovations,” says Jim West of New York, who has extensively investigated the subject of polio and pesticides. “This is not to say that DDT was the actual cause of the first polio epidemic, as arsenic was then in widespread use and DDT is said to have been merely an academic exercise. However, DDT or any of several neurotoxic organochlorines already discovered could have caused the first polio epidemic if they had been used experimentally as a pesticide. DDT’s absence from early literature is little assurance that it was not used.”318

    Nearly ten years before, in 1878, Alfred Vulpian, a neurologist, had provided experimental evidence for the poisoning thesis when he discovered that dogs poisoned by lead suffered from the same symptoms as human polio victims. In 1883, the Russian Miezeyeski Popow showed that the same paralysis could be produced with arsenic. These studies should have aroused the scientific community, considering that the arsenic-based pesticide Paris green had been widely used in agriculture to fight “pests” like caterpillars since 1870.319

    “But instead of prohibiting the insecticide Paris green, it was replaced by the even more toxic pesticide: lead arsenate, which likewise contained heavy metals, in the state of Massachusetts in 1892,“ according to a 2004 article in the British magazine The Ecologist.320 Indeed, a polio epidemic broke out in Massachusetts two years later. Dr. Charles Caverly, who was responsible for the tests, maintained that a toxin was more likely the culprit than a virus, stating emphatically that, “we are very certainly not dealing with a contagious disease.”

    Within a short time, however, lead arsenate became the most important pesticide in the industrialized world’s fruit cultivation. It was not the only toxic substance used in agricultural industries.321 In 1907, for example, calcium arsenate was introduced in Massachusetts322 and was used in cotton fields and factories. Months later, 69 children who lived downstream from three cotton factories suddenly became sick and suffered from paralysis. Meanwhile, lead arsenate was also being sprayed on the fruit trees in their gardens.323 But microbe hunters ignored these legitimate “cluster” factors, and instead continued searching for a “responsible” virus.324

    A cornerstone for the polio-as-virus theory was laid down in 1908 by scientists Karl Landsteiner and Erwin Popper, both working in Austria.325 326 The World Health Organization calls their experiments one of the “milestones in the obliteration of polio.”327 That year, another polio epidemic occurred and once again there was clear evidence that toxic pesticides were at play. But, astoundingly, instead of following up this evidence, medical authorities viewed the pesticides as weapons in the battle against the arch enemy microbes. They even neglected to give the children suffering from lameness treatments to alleviate the pesticide poisoning and, thus establish whether their health could be improved this way.328 (In 1951, Irwin Eskwith did exactly that and succeeded in curing a child suffering cranial nerve damage—bulbar paralysis, a particularly severe form of polio329—with dimercaprol, a detoxification substance that binds heavy metals like arsenic and lead).330 331 332

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    Engelbrecht, Torsten; Köhnlein, Claus; Bailey, Samantha; Scoglio, Stefano. Virus Mania (pp. 72-75). Books on Demand. Kindle Edition.
    Please post a peer reviewed journal article demonstrating that polio was not caused by a viorus.

    I'll wait.

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    Covid shots were great for fascist like Earl when Trump was President, but as soon as he lost,It became a left wing Biden conspiracy to wipe out Americans !
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    Umm yeah those vaccine didn't get emergency use status and had to go through the whole safety protocol.
    The vaccine was tested on 10's of 1000's of people before being issued to the public. Where in Latin America did you get your medical degree? Same place as Dr. Oz, no doubt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenyx View Post
    The notion that polio is caused by a virus at all has been disputed by a book written by doctors called Virus Mania. Quoting from it:

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    Polio: Pesticides Such as DDT and Heavy Metals under Suspicion

    Practically all of the illnesses that affected people in industrialized countries in the decades before World War II (tuberculosis etc.) ceased to cause problems after 1945. For a few years, the major exception was polio (infantile paralysis), which continues to be called an infectious disease. In the 1950s, the number of polio cases in developed countries fell drastically—and epidemic authorities attributed this success to their vaccination campaigns. But a look at the statistics reveals that the number of polio victims had already fallen drastically when vaccination activities started (see diagram 2).

    Many pieces of evidence justify the suspicion that the cause of infantile paralysis (polio) is not a virus. Many experts, like American physician Benjamin Sandler, believe a decisive factor is a high consumption of refined foods such as granulated sugar.312 Others cite mass vaccinations. Indeed, since the beginning of the 20th century, it has been known that the paralysis so typical of polio have often appeared at the site where an injection has been given.313 Additionally, the number of polio cases increased drastically after mass vaccinations against diphtheria and whooping cough in the 1940s, as documented in the Lancet and other publications.314 315 316

    Polio, like most diseases, may be conditional on various factors. It makes particular sense, however, to take poisoning by industrial and agricultural pollution into consideration, to explain why this nervous disease first appeared in the 19th century, in the course of industrialization. It spread like wildfire in the industrialized West in the first half of the 20th century, while in developing countries, in contrast, there was no outbreak.

    In the 19th century, the disease was named poliomyelitis, referring to degeneration of spinal column nerves (myelitis is a disease of the spinal cord) typical of polio.317 Orthodox medical literature can offer no evidence that the poliovirus was anything other than benign until the first polio epidemic, which occurred in Sweden in 1887. This was 13 years after the invention of DDT in Germany (in 1874) and 14 years after the invention of the first mechanical crop sprayer, which was used to spray formulations of water, kerosene, soap and arsenic.

    “The epidemic also occurred immediately following an unprecedented flurry of pesticide innovations,” says Jim West of New York, who has extensively investigated the subject of polio and pesticides. “This is not to say that DDT was the actual cause of the first polio epidemic, as arsenic was then in widespread use and DDT is said to have been merely an academic exercise. However, DDT or any of several neurotoxic organochlorines already discovered could have caused the first polio epidemic if they had been used experimentally as a pesticide. DDT’s absence from early literature is little assurance that it was not used.”318

    Nearly ten years before, in 1878, Alfred Vulpian, a neurologist, had provided experimental evidence for the poisoning thesis when he discovered that dogs poisoned by lead suffered from the same symptoms as human polio victims. In 1883, the Russian Miezeyeski Popow showed that the same paralysis could be produced with arsenic. These studies should have aroused the scientific community, considering that the arsenic-based pesticide Paris green had been widely used in agriculture to fight “pests” like caterpillars since 1870.319

    “But instead of prohibiting the insecticide Paris green, it was replaced by the even more toxic pesticide: lead arsenate, which likewise contained heavy metals, in the state of Massachusetts in 1892,“ according to a 2004 article in the British magazine The Ecologist.320 Indeed, a polio epidemic broke out in Massachusetts two years later. Dr. Charles Caverly, who was responsible for the tests, maintained that a toxin was more likely the culprit than a virus, stating emphatically that, “we are very certainly not dealing with a contagious disease.”

    Within a short time, however, lead arsenate became the most important pesticide in the industrialized world’s fruit cultivation. It was not the only toxic substance used in agricultural industries.321 In 1907, for example, calcium arsenate was introduced in Massachusetts322 and was used in cotton fields and factories. Months later, 69 children who lived downstream from three cotton factories suddenly became sick and suffered from paralysis. Meanwhile, lead arsenate was also being sprayed on the fruit trees in their gardens.323 But microbe hunters ignored these legitimate “cluster” factors, and instead continued searching for a “responsible” virus.324

    A cornerstone for the polio-as-virus theory was laid down in 1908 by scientists Karl Landsteiner and Erwin Popper, both working in Austria.325 326 The World Health Organization calls their experiments one of the “milestones in the obliteration of polio.”327 That year, another polio epidemic occurred and once again there was clear evidence that toxic pesticides were at play. But, astoundingly, instead of following up this evidence, medical authorities viewed the pesticides as weapons in the battle against the arch enemy microbes. They even neglected to give the children suffering from lameness treatments to alleviate the pesticide poisoning and, thus establish whether their health could be improved this way.328 (In 1951, Irwin Eskwith did exactly that and succeeded in curing a child suffering cranial nerve damage—bulbar paralysis, a particularly severe form of polio329—with dimercaprol, a detoxification substance that binds heavy metals like arsenic and lead).330 331 332

    **

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    Engelbrecht, Torsten; Köhnlein, Claus; Bailey, Samantha; Scoglio, Stefano. Virus Mania (pp. 72-75). Books on Demand. Kindle Edition.
    OMG smh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenyx View Post
    The notion that polio is caused by a virus at all has been disputed by a book written by doctors called Virus Mania. Quoting from it:

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    Polio: Pesticides Such as DDT and Heavy Metals under Suspicion

    Practically all of the illnesses that affected people in industrialized countries in the decades before World War II (tuberculosis etc.) ceased to cause problems after 1945. For a few years, the major exception was polio (infantile paralysis), which continues to be called an infectious disease. In the 1950s, the number of polio cases in developed countries fell drastically—and epidemic authorities attributed this success to their vaccination campaigns. But a look at the statistics reveals that the number of polio victims had already fallen drastically when vaccination activities started (see diagram 2).

    Many pieces of evidence justify the suspicion that the cause of infantile paralysis (polio) is not a virus. Many experts, like American physician Benjamin Sandler, believe a decisive factor is a high consumption of refined foods such as granulated sugar.312 Others cite mass vaccinations. Indeed, since the beginning of the 20th century, it has been known that the paralysis so typical of polio have often appeared at the site where an injection has been given.313 Additionally, the number of polio cases increased drastically after mass vaccinations against diphtheria and whooping cough in the 1940s, as documented in the Lancet and other publications.314 315 316

    Polio, like most diseases, may be conditional on various factors. It makes particular sense, however, to take poisoning by industrial and agricultural pollution into consideration, to explain why this nervous disease first appeared in the 19th century, in the course of industrialization. It spread like wildfire in the industrialized West in the first half of the 20th century, while in developing countries, in contrast, there was no outbreak.

    In the 19th century, the disease was named poliomyelitis, referring to degeneration of spinal column nerves (myelitis is a disease of the spinal cord) typical of polio.317 Orthodox medical literature can offer no evidence that the poliovirus was anything other than benign until the first polio epidemic, which occurred in Sweden in 1887. This was 13 years after the invention of DDT in Germany (in 1874) and 14 years after the invention of the first mechanical crop sprayer, which was used to spray formulations of water, kerosene, soap and arsenic.

    “The epidemic also occurred immediately following an unprecedented flurry of pesticide innovations,” says Jim West of New York, who has extensively investigated the subject of polio and pesticides. “This is not to say that DDT was the actual cause of the first polio epidemic, as arsenic was then in widespread use and DDT is said to have been merely an academic exercise. However, DDT or any of several neurotoxic organochlorines already discovered could have caused the first polio epidemic if they had been used experimentally as a pesticide. DDT’s absence from early literature is little assurance that it was not used.”318

    Nearly ten years before, in 1878, Alfred Vulpian, a neurologist, had provided experimental evidence for the poisoning thesis when he discovered that dogs poisoned by lead suffered from the same symptoms as human polio victims. In 1883, the Russian Miezeyeski Popow showed that the same paralysis could be produced with arsenic. These studies should have aroused the scientific community, considering that the arsenic-based pesticide Paris green had been widely used in agriculture to fight “pests” like caterpillars since 1870.319

    “But instead of prohibiting the insecticide Paris green, it was replaced by the even more toxic pesticide: lead arsenate, which likewise contained heavy metals, in the state of Massachusetts in 1892,“ according to a 2004 article in the British magazine The Ecologist.320 Indeed, a polio epidemic broke out in Massachusetts two years later. Dr. Charles Caverly, who was responsible for the tests, maintained that a toxin was more likely the culprit than a virus, stating emphatically that, “we are very certainly not dealing with a contagious disease.”

    Within a short time, however, lead arsenate became the most important pesticide in the industrialized world’s fruit cultivation. It was not the only toxic substance used in agricultural industries.321 In 1907, for example, calcium arsenate was introduced in Massachusetts322 and was used in cotton fields and factories. Months later, 69 children who lived downstream from three cotton factories suddenly became sick and suffered from paralysis. Meanwhile, lead arsenate was also being sprayed on the fruit trees in their gardens.323 But microbe hunters ignored these legitimate “cluster” factors, and instead continued searching for a “responsible” virus.324

    A cornerstone for the polio-as-virus theory was laid down in 1908 by scientists Karl Landsteiner and Erwin Popper, both working in Austria.325 326 The World Health Organization calls their experiments one of the “milestones in the obliteration of polio.”327 That year, another polio epidemic occurred and once again there was clear evidence that toxic pesticides were at play. But, astoundingly, instead of following up this evidence, medical authorities viewed the pesticides as weapons in the battle against the arch enemy microbes. They even neglected to give the children suffering from lameness treatments to alleviate the pesticide poisoning and, thus establish whether their health could be improved this way.328 (In 1951, Irwin Eskwith did exactly that and succeeded in curing a child suffering cranial nerve damage—bulbar paralysis, a particularly severe form of polio329—with dimercaprol, a detoxification substance that binds heavy metals like arsenic and lead).330 331 332

    **

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    Engelbrecht, Torsten; Köhnlein, Claus; Bailey, Samantha; Scoglio, Stefano. Virus Mania (pp. 72-75). Books on Demand. Kindle Edition.
    Thank you for your input Dr. Isn't it funny how all those things stopped causing polio after the Vaccine came out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    To each his own, I’ve seen shingles, pneumonia and the flu’s very bad effects on unvaccinated elders, so I’ll take the jabs.
    Shingles is the absolute worst. I am almost to the one year mark, and mine is still not gone. I'm beginning to think it never will. On my face. I cannot sleep on that side without a Lidocain patch. My vision issues cone and go, sometimes the pain and pressure on the eyeball is debilitating. Get the jab.

    Note: Ironically, mine came on four days after my first vaccination. I think it's possible that contributed, but I am still on board with vaccinations. I'm probably that unlucky .001 percent. Oh well.

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    shingles, pneumonia and the flu= ive got all those vaxxes.
    I got the 2 Pfizer jabs, and now there is concern for those over 65
    No way would I ever get another booster.
    My sister (liver transplant patient) demanded and got monoclonal antibodies as a prophylaxis

    Everyone has acquired immunity by now -no need for boosters
    I don't know how you were diverted / You were perverted too
    I don't know how you were inverted / No one alerted you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    Shingles is the absolute worst. I am almost to the one year mark, and mine is still not gone. I'm beginning to think it never will. On my face. I cannot sleep on that side without a Lidocain patch. My vision issues cone and go, sometimes the pain and pressure on the eyeball is debilitating. Get the jab.

    Note: Ironically, mine came on four days after my first vaccination. I think it's possible that contributed, but I am still on board with vaccinations. I'm probably that unlucky .001 percent. Oh well.
    sorry to hear that. hopefully it gets to the point it's not displaying itself.. My friend had the same, it fianlly did so
    The vaxxes are expensive ( for us non- millionaires) but I happened to walk into Walgreens
    when they were running a special and got them for couple bucks ( 2 vaxxes required)

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    The CDC said one of its vaccine safety monitoring systems – a “near real-time surveillance system” called the Vaccine Safety Datalink – detected a possible increase in a certain kind of stroke in people 65 and older who recently got one of Pfizer’s updated booster shots.


    A rapid response analysis of that signal revealed that seniors who got an bivalent booster might be more likely to have ischemic strokes within the first three weeks after their shots, compared with weeks four through six.
    https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/13/healt...cdc/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    Shingles is the absolute worst. I am almost to the one year mark, and mine is still not gone. I'm beginning to think it never will. On my face. I cannot sleep on that side without a Lidocain patch. My vision issues cone and go, sometimes the pain and pressure on the eyeball is debilitating. Get the jab.

    Note: Ironically, mine came on four days after my first vaccination. I think it's possible that contributed, but I am still on board with vaccinations. I'm probably that unlucky .001 percent. Oh well.
    I’m so very sorry! I hope you get some relief quickly! My sister had it on her face and in her eyes as well. She said she’s never experienced such pain. My other sister had it and she said she didn’t want to wear clothes or cover up with sheets. They both encourage the rest of us to get the jab.

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    Being born in 1950 and seeing people afraid of their children getting polio while growing up .. As some who had friends and family who got polio I remember the joy around the country because of Dr Salk's vaccination and it was eradicated


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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenyx View Post
    Fair enough, but I think the tide is definitely shifting in the direction of jab regrets. As someone who hasn't had a vaccine since childhood, I have no regrets whatsoever. My only regret is that I ever got a vaccine at all.
    Nope. The rights are proclaiming the shots are killing kids and those who follow those idiots are scared. If you believe Fox and Infowars, you would be afraid. If you follow real medical pros, you are not worried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle_Eye View Post
    Yea all those vaccinations are un-needed. OH Wait!!!!

    Polio has been eliminated from the United States thanks to widespread polio vaccination in this country. Since 1979, no cases of wild polio have originated in the United States.

    Guess you are FOS after all!
    This is a false equivalence fallacy. The polio vaccine has proven, from the start, to be very effective in preventing someone from catching polio. Once vaccinated, you are almost certain to never contract polio.
    With the various Chinese disease vaccines, you still have about a 50 - 50 chance of contracting a case. Boosters are claimed by the so-called experts to be needed as often as every 6 months afterwards for an extended period just to keep you at that 50 -50 chance. It is claimed that if you do catch a case, the likelihood is it will be milder. That isn't a true vaccine, it's damn near a placebo.

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