The founders said we are a democracy

[Into the Night]

It says so much about the GOP in '23 that we now have spirited debates about the fact that we're a democracy. Reagan would have been like, "huh?"

That party has gone WAY down the rabbit hole.

The United States was never a democracy. Redefinition fallacy.

[BartenderElite]

The United States was never a democracy. Redefinition fallacy.

Believe it or not, a Representative Democracy is actually a form of democracy.

Who knew.

[Into the Night]

Believe it or not, a Representative Democracy is actually a form of democracy.

Who knew.

Democracies have no representatives.

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

That's exactly what he's doing. He's given up. He is defeated and trying to convince others to be defeated.

yes. it is a demonic attack.

[Into the Night]

yes. it is a demonic attack.

Which demon? People believe in many different demons.

[PostmodernProphet]

its amazing how modernists spend so much time arguing about the power of words......are we a Democracy......are we a Republic......everyone knows how our government works, regardless of what you want to name it........if you don't like the way it works you can always change it.....at least if enough of you want to....

[Flash]

We have to define democracy and compare that to the U. S. to determine if we meet that definition. The problem is the definition usually give, "government by the people" is so broad that it has no meaning.

What are the characteristics of a democracy to qualify? If one characteristic is individual freedom of speech. What if the people don't want free speech? Do we follow the will of the people or keep free speech despite their opposition?

[BidenPresident]

We have to define democracy and compare that to the U. S. to determine if we meet that definition. The problem is the definition usually give, "government by the people" is so broad that it has no meaning.

What are the characteristics of a democracy to qualify? If one characteristic is individual freedom of speech. What if the people don't want free speech? Do we follow the will of the people or keep free speech despite their opposition?

Right wingers make a fetish of free speech. I think the concept is fairly trivial.

[BartenderElite]

Democracies have no representatives.

Representative democracies do.

[Flash]

Right wingers make a fetish of free speech. I think the concept is fairly trivial.

That was just an example. List any other freedom or characteristic you think is required to be a "democracy."

I remember when left-wingers were supporters of free speech.

[BidenPresident]

That was just an example. List any other freedom or characteristic you think is required to be a "democracy."

I remember when left-wingers were supporters of free speech.

I never cared about free speech. Only defined by Const. as the government preventing something from being published--technical, legal issues. Nothing about making a private company post your comments on their website.

[Flash]

I never cared about free speech. Only defined by Const. as the government preventing something from being published--technical, legal issues. Nothing about making a private company post your comments on their website.

I think you are confusing free speech with free press about something being published.

None of the Bill of Rights applies to private entities. It originally only applied to the federal government but has since been expanded so that most, but not all, of the rights also restrict states.

[BidenPresident]

I think you are confusing free speech with free press about something being published.

I am not confused.

[Into the Night]

Representative democracies do.

There is no such thing as a 'representative democracy'. Democracies have no representatives. Redefinition fallacy (democracy<->republic).

[Into the Night]

That was just an example. List any other freedom or characteristic you think is required to be a "democracy."

I remember when left-wingers were supporters of free speech.

They never were.