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    Default “A side-by-side look at the Trump, Biden classified documents”

    https://apnews.com/article/biden-cla...c1c5e227b1da53

    Despite the discovery of classified materials, there is no indication Biden himself was aware of the existence of the records before they were turned over. The records were turned over quickly, without any intent to conceal.

    Trump on the other hand knew of the documents, and even obstructed and lied in a protracted battle to retrieve the documents.

    As the MAGA militia loves to cite from the Mueller Report, if there wasn’t malice nor intent, or even knowledge that a law may have been broken, there is no crime. Can’t say the same for Donnie

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    https://apnews.com/article/biden-cla...c1c5e227b1da53

    Despite the discovery of classified materials, there is no indication Biden himself was aware of the existence of the records before they were turned over. The records were turned over quickly, without any intent to conceal.

    Trump on the other hand knew of the documents, and even obstructed and lied in a protracted battle to retrieve the documents.

    As the MAGA militia loves to cite from the Mueller Report, if there wasn’t malice nor intent, or even knowledge that a law may have been broken, there is no crime. Can’t say the same for Donnie
    Irrelevant. Classified documents left completely unprotected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    Irrelevant. Classified documents left completely unprotected.
    It's very relevant since the law specifically requires intent for it to be a crime.
    If someone doesn't know they have them then there can be no intent.
    If someone does know they have them, refuse to give them back and then hides them instead of turning them over when subpoenaed that may not prove intent but it certainly would be more likely to be proven in court.
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    now remind us of what Biden said about it during the election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    Irrelevant. Classified documents left completely unprotected.
    Who said these documents weren't already declassified?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    It's very relevant since the law specifically requires intent for it to be a crime.
    If someone doesn't know they have them then there can be no intent.
    If someone does know they have them, refuse to give them back and then hides them instead of turning them over when subpoenaed that may not prove intent but it certainly would be more likely to be proven in court.
    So you're like another poster I was talking to who believes that someone else had these classified files and decided to put them in bidens old office and in his garage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    Who said these documents weren't already declassified?
    Who said they were? If they were who declassified them? Brandon? In his mind?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    Who said they were?
    Shouldn't we wait and see before we start casting Biden to hell?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    Shouldn't we wait and see before we start casting Biden to hell?
    No I don't think so because if mar a largo never happened and this was trump am I supposed to believe you would be suggesting we wait before casting trump to hell? Really???????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    No I don't think so because if mar a largo never happened and this was trump am I supposed to believe you would be suggesting we wait before casting trump to hell? Really???????
    We all have to wait on investigations!

    Donald Trump is being investigated on things and so is Biden- like all presidents and other political figures are through normal check and balance systems in place for exactly that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    Who said they were? If they were who declassified them? Brandon? In his mind?
    A VP cannot declassify anything. These are documents from when he was a Vice President.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    So you're like another poster I was talking to who believes that someone else had these classified files and decided to put them in bidens old office and in his garage.
    If Trump had returned the documents when asked to, his case would have been a nothing burger.

    In a move, things get packed that shouldn't be packed. If they are later discovered and returned then it doesn't violate the law. If they are asked for and not returned then it does violate the law. Someone this morning was talking about how they had asked for their military medical file to go to the doctor, when they got it they discovered it contained classified information so they had to take it back so the classified information could be removed. It wasn't a crime. Those things happen. Having it is not the crime. Not returning it to its proper place when you discover it is the crime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    Irrelevant. Classified documents left completely unprotected.
    Biden Is Lying About Documents, Claims George Santos. - Andy Borowitz


    Biden Aides Discover Another Batch of Classified Documents from His Time as VP

    Another tranche of classified documents from President Joe Biden’s time as vice president has been discovered by his aides, NBC News reported Wednesday afternoon.

    The initial report broke Monday that classified documents had been found in one of Biden’s private offices, sparking debate among political commentators seeking to compare or contrast these documents to those seized by the FBI from former President Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago. Which angle various commentators took largely depended on the individual’s political leanings, but Karl Rove was among those who remarked on multiple key ways that the Trump documents situation was worse, leading to an angry response from Trump himself.

    It’s been a highly contentious issue for Biden, especially in light of his criticism of his predecessor, and this latest revelation seems likely to increase the controversy.

    NBC News reported that Biden aides “have discovered at least one additional batch of classified documents in a location separate from the Washington office he used after leaving the Obama administration,” citing as a source “a person familiar with the matter.”

    The discovery of the original documents with classified markings in a office formerly used by Biden resulted in his aides launching a search for “any additional classified materials that might be in other locations he used,” according to NBC News, resulting in these newly found documents:

    https://www.mediaite.com/biden/just-...is-time-as-vp/


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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    https://apnews.com/article/biden-cla...c1c5e227b1da53

    Despite the discovery of classified materials, there is no indication Biden himself was aware of the existence of the records before they were turned over. The records were turned over quickly, without any intent to conceal.

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    As the MAGA militia loves to cite from the Mueller Report, if there wasn’t malice nor intent, or even knowledge that a law may have been broken, there is no crime. Can’t say the same for Donnie
    Of course MAGA knows Trump's doc scandal is way more serious. They'll just never admit it.
    Judge Juan M. Merchan wrote that Trump “appears to take the position that his situation and this case are unique and that the pre-trial publicity will never subside. However, this view does not align with reality.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    https://apnews.com/article/biden-cla...c1c5e227b1da53

    Despite the discovery of classified materials, there is no indication Biden himself was aware of the existence of the records before they were turned over. The records were turned over quickly, without any intent to conceal.

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    As the MAGA militia loves to cite from the Mueller Report, if there wasn’t malice nor intent, or even knowledge that a law may have been broken, there is no crime. Can’t say the same for Donnie
    I see you're set to spin cycle, brah!

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