evince (12-11-2022)
Ain't gonna happen. While this thread is great for advertising the weak-minded and cowardly thread-starters, like Earl, Moon and other douchebags, it won't change Damo's mind on it since the problem has been rehashed before.
To avoid the mistake of "repeating the same thing and hoping for different results", I suggest looking for alternate solutions. The best lesson I recalled from Dale Carnegie's book is that, if you want to persuade someone of something, don't push why you want it, push why they want it. Suggestions should be factual.
One example is that, too many thread bans limit conversation and, therefore, traffic. This is not in the forum's best interests if the forum is to grow. He can preserve the privilege of thread-banning, but limit them to 1-3 threads per day to encourage more posting or attracting more lurkers/newbies who dislike people like Earl, Moon and Legion.
Although I haven't counted them up, casual observation shows Earl's threads quickly die, probably after the usual echo chamber bullshit. Also note that "open" threads, even if dying quickly, average higher View counts.
As the second pic below displays, many threads die within a few posts, but a handful end up with high post counts. The totals of one regular page seem to far outweigh Earl's threads over three pages at a cost of wasted bandwidth with a similar result of clogging up the forum. Ergo, threads banning a high number of members waste forum assets.
In some ways, Rule #13 applies; posting multiple threads with high threadban counts (over 5?) ends up cluttering the forum and can be seen as "self-moderation" against the best interests of the forum.
Sure, preserve the right to thread ban, but let's be adults here...just like Rule #13 states: No Self-Moderation of the Board. Definition: making a thread unreadable through using extra large fonts or other means to block usage of a thread/forum. Rules will be enforced by the Administration or by Staff Members... Let's be adult here....
From last SEP/OCT to give them time. Note dates and last post date. The links are to a larger picture.
https://i.imgur.com/CiOQu1C.png
JPP OCT22: https://i.imgur.com/zt9N1Ev.png
In the end, it's Damo's call. Whining seems to work for the RWNJs so maybe it'll work here too.
Last edited by Doc Dutch; 12-11-2022 at 04:44 PM. Reason: Dinner and a movie
"Hatred is a failure of imagination" - Graham Greene, "The Power and the Glory"
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Maybe Damo needs to create a subforum called The Excessive Thread Ban Safe House, for tender buttercups like pEarl. Any massive threads posted elsewhere just get deleted.
That being said, I often thread-ban certain trolls and obsessed stalkers like TDAK, Primavera, CO/goat, etc.
"Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain
Doc Dutch (12-11-2022)
Doc Dutch (12-11-2022)
Doc Dutch (12-11-2022)
I dont always follow the rule myself, in part because I have gotten so little support for it, but I have long called for a community shunning of all threads with more than five threadbans.
I dont believe threadbanning should be allowed at all, but surely five is enough, more than that proves the lack of willingness to allow a fair fight.
I choose my own words like the Americans of olden times........before this dystopia arrived.
DARK AGES SUCK!
"Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain
Mason Michaels (12-13-2022)
The discussion here is more about persuading Damo to set a limit. Five is a reasonable number. I'd also recommend limiting threads-starts containing threadbans to two per day.
As pointed out in a previous post, threads with high threadban counts die quickly and clog up the forum...possibly in violation of Rule #13's "self-moderation" clause.
Let's be adults here.
"Hatred is a failure of imagination" - Graham Greene, "The Power and the Glory"
Martin's suggestions should be banned......
Isaiah 6:5
“Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”
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