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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Pure speculation: since the Dems won't be beholden to a power sharing agreement anymore, can the J6 investigation continue in Senate committee?
    Under the constitution, the house has more broad investigation powers, and rights. That does not prevent the Senate from investigating however.

    This is an interesting idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    House has a (D) majority till next year. But then you're just flipping an answer out there with nothing to base it on other than the voices in your head. lol
    The Senate doesn't need the House to approve a Senate investigative committee. The Senate can investigate anything they want without the permission of the House

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    You aren't disappointed because you knew that trump is toxic, and Walker is an absolute buffoon.

    Limited expectations, as it were.

    Don't be surprised if House Dems find 5 or 6 sane Republicans who want to actually represent their states/districts.

    Whoever becomes the Speaker can refuse to bring votes to the floor the way Boehner/Ryan did with the immigration bill, but that's not what the nation is looking for right now.

    You might enjoy headlines for two years, but it won't look good in '24. Especially when trump single handedly hands the elections to Democrats again.

    Meanwhile, Dems can focus on seating competent judges around the nation.
    I am encouraging Republicans to run a Trump-Walker ticket in 2024!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I am encouraging Republicans to run a Trump-Walker ticket in 2024!
    How about a Toadstool-MTG match-up? The crazy meter will be spinning! lol
    "Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Under the constitution, the house has more broad investigation powers, and rights. That does not prevent the Senate from investigating however.

    This is an interesting idea.
    The Senate investigated Watergate, the 9/11 attack, and the Iraq intelligence failure, and I don't think they had to beg the House for it's permission to investigate

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    yay, we get to see party over principle in both houses again..........I love gridlock. at least some of what's left of my freedom will remain intact for a couple years.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    The Senate investigated Watergate, the 9/11 attack, and the Iraq intelligence failure, and I don't think they had to beg the House for it's permission to investigate
    They do not need permission from the house, they just have less oversight powers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    --What an Expanded 51 to 49 Senate Majority Means--

    Democrats can do away with the power sharing agreement and will hold majorities in each committee, allowing them to process legislation and nominations much faster. Democrats will also enjoy bigger staffs and budgets, giving them more ability to carry out committee work. Committees are currently evenly split -- as are the resources -- allowing Republicans to slow the pace of nominees they oppose. When a choice deadlocks in committee, Democrats must take time-consuming steps to discharge that person from committee and allow a floor vote. In one instance earlier this year, Republicans used Banking Committee rules to prevent a vote from even taking place by boycotting committee sessions, ultimately forcing President Joe Biden to withdraw a nominee for the Federal Reserve. Tuesday's result will also free up additional floor time for Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer to use toward other nominees and Democratic priorities.

    Democrats will have stronger power to issue subpoenas. They will no longer need bipartisan support to issue subpoenas so they can bypass GOP opposition to using these key tools. This could increase the power and number of Democratic-led investigations.

    Centrist Democrats may not hold as much power over Democrats' agenda. A two-seat majority margin gives Schumer more breathing room to pass legislation without needing support from all members of his caucus -- like West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin and Arizona Sen. Kyrsten Sinema, moderates who will both be up for reelection in 2024. The two held enormous power in the 50-50 Senate.

    Filling a Supreme Court vacancy could be easier. The two-seat margin could also become critical if there were to be a Supreme Court vacancy as only a majority is needed to confirm a justice to that post, allowing Schumer to lose one vote.

    Harris might not be needed as often on the Hill. Democrats likely won't have to rely as heavily on Vice President Kamala Harris to break tie votes on nominations and legislation, something she's done 26 times so far in the current 50-50 Senate, the most by any vice president in modern times.

    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/12/06/p...ges/index.html
    The Red Tsunami turned out to be a Trump ketchup tsunami. BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!
    Judge Juan M. Merchan wrote that Trump “appears to take the position that his situation and this case are unique and that the pre-trial publicity will never subside. However, this view does not align with reality.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    How about a Toadstool-MTG match-up? The crazy meter will be spinning! lol
    That's my favorite.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    How about a Toadstool-MTG match-up? The crazy meter will be spinning! lol
    The beauty is that MAGA posters and garden variety MAGA rubes just are never able to learn how toxic the stench of Trump is to the wider electorate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Life is Golden View Post
    I really don't think about Trump anymore, he's been gone, how many years now?

    Sure, if you can find enough votes in the House you can do it, but those who vote for crazy spending or mandates will commit political suicide and they won't do that.
    Spending is only crazy according to Republicans, when Democrats are in power. Otherwise, they're worse when it comes to spending. They all voted against infrastructure bills, but go home and brag about the money their states get.

    In case you haven't noticed, trump isn't gone. How can you pretend that he is?
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    If Biden can't get The House and the Senate to work together, we may not even be able to keep the lights on!

    Here it is Budget time again, and the Republicans are threatening to prevent raising the debt ceiling!

    So I expect McCarthy or whoever his replacement will be, and Chuckie to be spending a lot of time in the Principals office over the next month.
    Whereas the crazies love to brag about shutting down/killing the govt., it has always backfired against them. I don't see that happening. In fact, even McTurtle wants to get the spending bill passed this year.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Under the constitution, the house has more broad investigation powers, and rights. That does not prevent the Senate from investigating however.

    This is an interesting idea.
    Schiff was on NPR this morning. He sounded like if the repubs want to end the Jan. 6 committee, they could. But that's coming from Schiff - not very credible on anything.
    As far as my own opinion, the pubs would be stupid to end it. They really need to purge themselves of Trump. If they do end it, they align themselves with an unpopular and crazy Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    Schiff was on NPR this morning. He sounded like if the repubs want to end the Jan. 6 committee, they could. But that's coming from Schiff - not very credible on anything.
    As far as my own opinion, the pubs would be stupid to end it. They really need to purge themselves of Trump. If they do end it, they align themselves with an unpopular and crazy Trump.
    It’s clear they want to get rid of them, but they are afraid of his base. Behind the scenes, they are doing everything they can to get rid of him, but they are scared to do anything publicly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Spending is only crazy according to Republicans, when Democrats are in power. Otherwise, they're worse when it comes to spending. They all voted against infrastructure bills, but go home and brag about the money their states get.

    In case you haven't noticed, trump isn't gone. How can you pretend that he is?
    That's the thing about politicians and one of the reasons I liked Trump, they are all beholden to their special interests. They are all in someone's pocket. Trump wasn't. Well he's been out of office for a while. I don't think about him much.

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