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    --What an Expanded 51 to 49 Senate Majority Means--

    Democrats can do away with the power sharing agreement and will hold majorities in each committee, allowing them to process legislation and nominations much faster. Democrats will also enjoy bigger staffs and budgets, giving them more ability to carry out committee work. Committees are currently evenly split -- as are the resources -- allowing Republicans to slow the pace of nominees they oppose. When a choice deadlocks in committee, Democrats must take time-consuming steps to discharge that person from committee and allow a floor vote. In one instance earlier this year, Republicans used Banking Committee rules to prevent a vote from even taking place by boycotting committee sessions, ultimately forcing President Joe Biden to withdraw a nominee for the Federal Reserve. Tuesday's result will also free up additional floor time for Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer to use toward other nominees and Democratic priorities.

    Democrats will have stronger power to issue subpoenas. They will no longer need bipartisan support to issue subpoenas so they can bypass GOP opposition to using these key tools. This could increase the power and number of Democratic-led investigations.

    Centrist Democrats may not hold as much power over Democrats' agenda. A two-seat majority margin gives Schumer more breathing room to pass legislation without needing support from all members of his caucus -- like West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin and Arizona Sen. Kyrsten Sinema, moderates who will both be up for reelection in 2024. The two held enormous power in the 50-50 Senate.

    Filling a Supreme Court vacancy could be easier. The two-seat margin could also become critical if there were to be a Supreme Court vacancy as only a majority is needed to confirm a justice to that post, allowing Schumer to lose one vote.

    Harris might not be needed as often on the Hill. Democrats likely won't have to rely as heavily on Vice President Kamala Harris to break tie votes on nominations and legislation, something she's done 26 times so far in the current 50-50 Senate, the most by any vice president in modern times.

    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/12/06/p...ges/index.html
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    I'm sure that the poor Magatards are very disappointed.
    Lock Him Up

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    Pure speculation: since the Dems won't be beholden to a power sharing agreement anymore, can the J6 investigation continue in Senate committee?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trumpet View Post
    I'm sure that the poor Magatards are very disappointed.
    MAGA spiked a lot of footballs between last Spring and November 8.

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    You are in Dreamland. I'm not disappointed at all. The House is gone for you. That is all that matters.

    Without it, there is gridlock. You won't get any more insane spending bills or fascist mandates through now.

    Thank God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Pure speculation: since the Dems won't be beholden to a power sharing agreement anymore, can the J6 investigation continue in Senate committee?
    Sure if the House approves it. Otherwise, no. lmao

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    Sinema and Manchin are singing a duet of Engelbert Humperdinck's "There Goes My Everything" this morning!

    They can Attention Whore and Drama Queen around the issues all they want now- but I doubt many people will notice them anymore!

    I figure Sinema will finally get on board with the Democrats and Manchin will vote with the Republicans on everything now.

    But their power trip dog and pony shows are over and done now!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Pure speculation: since the Dems won't be beholden to a power sharing agreement anymore, can the J6 investigation continue in Senate committee?
    Hmm, good question. Hopefully someone can answer that.
    "Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Life is Golden View Post
    Sure if the House approves it. Otherwise, no. lmao
    House has a (D) majority till next year. But then you're just flipping an answer out there with nothing to base it on other than the voices in your head. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Life is Golden View Post
    You are in Dreamland. I'm not disappointed at all. The House is gone for you. That is all that matters.

    Without it, there is gridlock. You won't get any more insane spending bills or fascist mandates through now.

    Thank God.
    You aren't disappointed because you knew that trump is toxic, and Walker is an absolute buffoon.

    Limited expectations, as it were.

    Don't be surprised if House Dems find 5 or 6 sane Republicans who want to actually represent their states/districts.

    Whoever becomes the Speaker can refuse to bring votes to the floor the way Boehner/Ryan did with the immigration bill, but that's not what the nation is looking for right now.

    You might enjoy headlines for two years, but it won't look good in '24. Especially when trump single handedly hands the elections to Democrats again.

    Meanwhile, Dems can focus on seating competent judges around the nation.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    Sinema and Manchin are singing a duet of Engelbert Humperdinck's "There Goes My Everything" this morning!

    They can Attention Whore and Drama Queen around the issues all they want now- but I doubt many people will notice them anymore!

    I figure Sinema will finally get on board with the Democrats and Manchin will vote with the Republicans on everything now.

    But their power trip dog and pony shows are over and done now!
    Manchin is still butt hurt that Republicans buried his chances of rushing through pipelines in exchange for a vote on the climate change bill. It's good that Schumer can wash his hands of it and blame McConnell.

    But I think we're going to see filthy energy proposals offered for every bill that the Senate touches now.

    I don't think we're done with Manchin/Sinema, but it's going to be a lot quieter now.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Life is Golden View Post
    You are in Dreamland. I'm not disappointed at all. The House is gone for you. That is all that matters.

    Without it, there is gridlock. You won't get any more insane spending bills or fascist mandates through now.

    Thank God.
    Lock Him Up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    You aren't disappointed because you knew that trump is toxic, and Walker is an absolute buffoon.

    Limited expectations, as it were.

    Don't be surprised if House Dems find 5 or 6 sane Republicans who want to actually represent their states/districts.

    Whoever becomes the Speaker can refuse to bring votes to the floor the way Boehner/Ryan did with the immigration bill, but that's not what the nation is looking for right now.

    You might enjoy headlines for two years, but it won't look good in '24. Especially when trump single handedly hands the elections to Democrats again.

    Meanwhile, Dems can focus on seating competent judges around the nation.
    I really don't think about Trump anymore, he's been gone, how many years now?

    Sure, if you can find enough votes in the House you can do it, but those who vote for crazy spending or mandates will commit political suicide and they won't do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Manchin is still butt hurt that Republicans buried his chances of rushing through pipelines in exchange for a vote on the climate change bill. It's good that Schumer can wash his hands of it and blame McConnell.

    But I think we're going to see filthy energy proposals offered for every bill that the Senate touches now.

    I don't think we're done with Manchin/Sinema, but it's going to be a lot quieter now.
    If Biden can't get The House and the Senate to work together, we may not even be able to keep the lights on!

    Here it is Budget time again, and the Republicans are threatening to prevent raising the debt ceiling!

    So I expect McCarthy or whoever his replacement will be, and Chuckie to be spending a lot of time in the Principals office over the next month.

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    A little salt on the MAGATs' butt-hurt. lol

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