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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Untrue, she did not surrender the documents on her server.

    She bleached them.
    But, but,but, she did give us all the emails that SHE thought were important. So everything is OK.
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    You are using a fact checker from WAPO?

    Who fact checks the lying WAPO?

    Too funny, ambulance chaser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    True that she did not surrender all documents and that she erased the remaining documents, untrue that all the documents were subpoenaed.
    If she had not surrendered one document after being subpoenaed, she broke the law...obstruction of justice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    True that she did not surrender all documents and that she erased the remaining documents, untrue that all the documents were subpoenaed.
    And also true that the DOJ should have chosen WHICH documents should have been retained.
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    The fact that the classified documents were on her private server (and on the pervert, Anthony Weiner’s computer and the Russians and the CCP) was enough to jail her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    He declassified the documents connected with Crossfire Hurricane and did not want it "disappeared" so he took it for safe keeping.
    He did not declassify. He says he did, but it is a 2 step procedure that he did not do. He does not have the power to declare anything and everything declassified by himself. I suppose you Trumpys think he can just declare every document in the national archives as declassified. Trump came up with that absurd response when he got caught with a truckload of important and highly classified documents at Miralago. It is bullshit. Rightys say they believe it because they want to. They would not say that if a Dem did it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    He did not declassify. He says he did, but it is a 2 step procedure that he did not do. He does not have the power to declare anything and everything declassified by himself. I suppose you Trumpys think he can just declare every document in the national archives as declassified. Trump came up with that absurd response when he got caught with a truckload of important and highly classified documents at Miralago. It is bullshit. Rightys say they believe it because they want to. They would not say that if a Dem did it.
    He did declassify them, he said so and that is the end of that story.

    They can not prove that he did not declassify them.

    “Can presidents declassify matters directly?

    Yes, because it is ultimately their constitutional authority.”
    nytimes.com

    End of story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    He did declassify them, he said so and that is the end of that story.

    They can not prove that he did not declassify them.

    End of story.
    Right, and he also said Mexico was going to pay for a wall, that Covid was under control, that Alabama was getting hit by Hurricane Doran, that he knew nothing about Stormy Daniels, that windmills cause cancer, that he would never play golf as President, and there are thousands more documented lies if you need them

    THE end of the story

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Right, and he also said Mexico was going to pay for a wall, that Covid was under control, that Alabama was getting hit by Hurricane Doran, that he knew nothing about Stormy Daniels, that windmills cause cancer, that he would never play golf as President, and there are thousands more documented lies if you need them

    THE end of the story
    Was he prosecuted or convicted?

    Biden has told a pot full of lies.

    Biden's big lies?https://nypost.com › 2022/11/08 › whats-behind-the-su...
    Nov 8, 2022 — All of a sudden, even left-leaning media are flagging President Joe Biden's lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Was he prosecuted or convicted?

    Biden has told a pot full of lies.

    Biden's big lies?https://nypost.com › 2022/11/08 › whats-behind-the-su...
    Nov 8, 2022 — All of a sudden, even left-leaning media are flagging President Joe Biden's lies.
    Biden lies like most politicians lie, but no one, probably all the politicians collected together ever, lie like Trump did and continues to lie

    And the “was he prosecuted or convicted,” or most used form, “did he break any laws,” is bogus, Shkreli raised the cost of needed life saving cancer drugs a thousand times higher for pure personal profit, and he was never “prosecuted nor convicted” for doing it, I guess in your view that makes what he did acceptable also

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Biden lies like most politicians lie, but no one, probably all the politicians collected together ever, lie like Trump did and continues to lie

    And the “was he prosecuted or convicted,” or most used form, “did he break any laws,” is bogus, Shkreli raised the cost of needed life saving cancer drugs a thousand times higher for pure personal profit, and he was never “prosecuted nor convicted” for doing it, I guess in your view that makes what he did acceptable also
    Shkreli can place any price he wants on any product he produces.

    Personal profit is what we all want, Anchovies.

    What he did is acceptable per the law.

    Poor Anchovies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Nonsense, he violated no federal law in removing and retaining classified documents without authorization because they were downgraded and were no longer classified.

    Get a clue, Pobre.
    Look at my signature, I have the law regarding removing government documents, it does not matter if they are classified or not, its still criminal.

    18 U.S. Code § 2071 - Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally
    44 U.S.C. 2202 - The United States shall reserve and retain complete ownership, possession, and control of Presidential records; and such records shall be administered in accordance with the provisions of this chapter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    Why did Obama have a bunch an old furniture store then. They keep documents to be placed in their Presidential libraries all Presidents do it. It's a nothing burger.
    False. Obama did not have an old furniture store. What the fuck are you talking about?

    They send the documents to National Archives then ask to borrow them for their libraries later. The United States still owns these documents but they are kept at libraries on loan as a courtesy.

    Former presidents cannot destroy them or sell them or lose them in a bankruptcy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    A lie and you know it’s a lie.

    https://ballotpedia.org › Hillary_Clinton_email_investig...
    "At a minimum, Secretary Clinton should have surrendered all emails dealing with Department business before leaving government service and, because she did not ...

    So, your defense is, she didn’t ignore the subpoena...but if she did...

    Too funny, ambulance chaser.
    Wrong, they only subpoenaed some of the documents on the server. Look into it, you are incorrect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    No, Pobre, Comey said there were classified documents, many of them, on her server and she refused a subpoena to give them to Congress.

    She “bleached” them after the subpoena. Obstruction of justice,
    False... provide a citation... YOU CANT!
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