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    Default mediabiasfactcheck.com bias

    I've come to find that people place way too much faith in certain fact checker sites, mediabiasfactcheck.com perhaps being the most common site used. I've decided that instead of continually linking various articles I've found that are critical of the site, it'd make more sense to simply make a single thread on the subject and then just refer people to it instead. Constructive comments welcome.

    Some articles on mediabiasfactcheck that I think are educational on the site:

    Media Bias Fact Check: Incompetent or Dishonest? | justfactsdaily.com

    Can you trust what "Media Bias/Fact Check" says about PolitiFact? (Updated x2) | politifactbias.com

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    There will always be antagonists of honest reporting, no one likes to be considered biased, but the reality of reporting is more complicated. Reading bits of the apologetic linked above reminded me of children caught in the wrong. But but but... Truth is, media bias should be covered and key assumptions made clear. Today a few of our media outlets are simply opinion - often republican - and not reporting. Democrats can do no good. I have no problem with that but 'news' should be removed from their label. I covered that topic in a thread linked below I need to update. Site noted above is covered here: Shooting the messenger is as old as history.

    "In summary, this is a factual website from a sourcing standpoint and impressively researched. It does, however, convey a right-leaning bias through story selection that is more favorable toward conservative causes and more negative toward liberal policy. We also rate Just Facts Daily Mixed for factual reporting based on a few failed fact checks."

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/just-facts-daily/


    Are Newsmax, OANN, and Fox Media threats to American Democracy?

    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...ican-Democracy


    'Trump's America' This is a deep dive into Trump and authoritarianism.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/497mckyoef7angt/Chapter 10 sgl.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    There will always be antagonists of honest reporting, no one likes to be considered biased, but the reality of reporting is more complicated. Reading bits of the apologetic linked above reminded me of children caught in the wrong. But but but... Truth is, media bias should be covered and key assumptions made clear. Today a few of our media outlets are simply opinion - often republican - and not reporting. Democrats can do no good. I have no problem with that but 'news' should be removed from their label. I covered that topic in a thread linked below I need to update. Site noted above is covered here: Shooting the messenger is as old as history.

    "In summary, this is a factual website from a sourcing standpoint and impressively researched. It does, however, convey a right-leaning bias through story selection that is more favorable toward conservative causes and more negative toward liberal policy. We also rate Just Facts Daily Mixed for factual reporting based on a few failed fact checks."

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/just-facts-daily/


    Are Newsmax, OANN, and Fox Media threats to American Democracy?

    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...ican-Democracy


    'Trump's America' This is a deep dive into Trump and authoritarianism.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/497mckyoef7angt/Chapter 10 sgl.pdf

    I'm left wing on a fair amount of issues and I've never been a fan of Trump. However, when it comes to issues such as Covid, the Ukraine war and the west's views of Russia in general as well as the left's general approval of censorship, it seems that most on the left essentially follow the official narrative, so there I must turn "right" since I strongly disagree with these narratives.

    I'm currently focusing quite a bit of energy on the democrat's efforts on censorship, which can be seen here:
    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...t-rebranded-RT

    I do note that some on the left are not happy with these trends to some extent. I remember Bernie Sanders saying that he wasn't happy with Trump being permanently removed from Twitter, back before Must took over Twitter.

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    I find labeling a way to avoid understanding. Calling something left or right has little meaning or substance. What it does is provide any easy escape from both complexity and understanding. When sites provide false information we do need to call them out. I'll check your link next.
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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    I find labeling a way to avoid understanding. Calling something left or right has little meaning or substance. What it does is provide any easy escape from both complexity and understanding.
    I agree in part. However, I've also found that it can sometimes be useful to refer to left and right. I think of it something like an abbreviation or a summary. Yes, abbreviations can sometimes stand for more than one thing and yes, summaries can leave a lot out, but when you don't want to spend a lot of time on a subject, labelling a stance "right" or "left" can be helpful. I'm more careful when it calls to labelling -people- left or right. If they label themselves that way, I am certainly more comfortable with labelling them the same, but otherwise, I tend to follow their lead. I may say that a given stance they take is generally right or left, just as I do with my own stances, but that's generally as far as I go.

    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    When sites provide false information we do need to call them out. I'll check your link next.
    Agreed. THe problem is when powerful sites censor information that may actually be true. That's where the link I mentioned last time comes in.
    "Trust those who seek the truth, doubt those who find it" - Andre Gide

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