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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Bill Nye is not a licensed engineer. He is not a professional engineer. He is an actor. The hydraulic resonance suppressor tube does not reduce aircraft noise. That is not it's purpose.
    Bill Nye does deny and discard many theories of science, just like you do.
    Yes, there is such a thing as Heisenberg's law and Schrodinger's law.

    Redefinition fallacy (engineering<->science).
    Night is embarrassing himself.
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    Anyone figured out what does Elon Musk have to do with this topic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Heisenberg's law is the equation that describes his theory. It is the same with Schrodinger.
    No one has ever been sure enough about Heisenberg or Schrödinger to call any of what they did laws. There is a joke in there somewhere, but I am tired today.

    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Newton created two laws, the law of motion and the law of gravity.
    Newton created what he called three laws of motion, one law of universal gravity, and one law of cooling. That would make five laws in total.

    His "laws" have mostly proven to be approximations, which work very well in general, but are not laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Insulation does not break any law of thermodynamics. You just deny and discard thermodynamics.
    So it is physically possible that a gas could insulate the earth, trapping in the energy from the sun, and thereby raise the temperature?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Okay. So create a new thread about it?
    Why should I when we already have this one ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    Why should I when we already have this one ?
    This thread is not about Elon Musk. Go create a thread to talk about Elon Musk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    This thread is not about Elon Musk. Go create a thread to talk about Elon Musk.
    its about EVs. specifically its about a TESLA truck. thats about as Musk-centric as you can get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    its about EVs. specifically its about a TESLA truck. thats about as Musk-centric as you can get.
    Yes I know he is the CEO. Again, what does he have to do with this topic? Is he also a CEO of National Grid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primavera View Post
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    This ought not to come as a surprise to anyone conversant with the technology.

    Tesla Semi truck stops would consume the electricity of small town USA as launch event scheduled for December 1

    A utility company has run the numbers and warns that the US grid can't provide the charging power for all the upcoming electric trucks like the Tesla Semi that will be released on December 1. The electrification of a typical gas station would demand the amount needed for a sports stadium, while a regular truck stop would need the electricity of a small town.

    A surge in EV charging demand, especially of the megawatt kind required for electric trucks like the Tesla Semi, would overwhelm the US grid, warns utility company National Grid Plc. Their numbers show that the electrification of just one regular gas station would put a strain on the grid equivalent to that of a sports stadium in 2030.

    A common truck stop full of Tesla Semis or similar electric rigs, on the other hand, will have the electricity consumption of a small US town by 2035, while a highway plaza electric truck and car stop will need the power of an industrial plant by 2045.

    The issue is not with the amount needed, as even in the worst-case scenario with rapid passenger and freight vehicle electrification, the global electricity demand would only be up 15% by 2040, but rather the speed and output that the charge needs to be delivered with.

    The Tesla Semi has a 82,000 lbs (37,195 kg) Gross Weight which it can truck along for up to 500 miles (804 km) on a charge, and its up to 1MWh battery estimate can recover 70% of its capacity in 30 minutes of charging. Tesla wants to solve the grid load problem by topping up the Semi at exclusive Megacharger stations that will be powered by solar energy. One such Megacharger, for instance, is built at the Modesto factory of the Semi's first customer - Pepsi - and Tesla will be holding a dedicated launch event to celebrate the first Semi truck deliveries there on December 1.

    Just like its Superchargers and newfangled North American Charging Standard, though, Tesla's Semi truck Megachargers will also have a competitor in the face of the 3.75MW Megawatt Charging Standard (MCS) for heavy-duty electric vehicles whose documentation is expected to be codified by the respective certification bodies in 2024.

    https://www.notebookcheck.net/Tesla-....668564.0.html
    America is not any more ready for Electric Semi-Trucks as we are for Autonomous Trucks yet. But that is the future- so you may as well start getting used to it.

    There has to be infrastructure to be able to support this new technology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primavera View Post
    Are you insane, I suspect that's the case? Newton's laws of motion are in fact three laws.

    Obviously you don't even know what Newton's law of motion is. You only quote the crap the school taught you. There is only one law of motion. F=mA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primavera View Post
    Did you read the article ffs? It is talking about depleted wells that by the introduction of certain bacteria produce hydrogen.
    Yes I read the article. So you want to use massive amounts of oil to produce hydrogen. Why would you do that?
    Did you know that 'depleted' wells fill up with oil again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primavera View Post
    Please don't embarrass yourself any further!!!
    You think I'm embarrassed???????!? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    and yet, far better than electric vehicles that rely on Chinese rare earth elements........
    Rare earths are not elements. They are compounds. They are available mostly in China, Australia, and the States (but mining them is forbidden by unconstitutional ecology laws).
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    lol.....in the US, long haul means at least getting from St Louis to Los Angeles.......figure 1500 plus miles one way.......200 kms is a day trip is a day trip for tourists.......
    Unit error. Kilometers per second is not kilometers.
    Comparison across units. Let's try for some consistency, shall we??

    200km is 124 miles.
    124 miles one way will result in 248 miles round trip, meaning your battery is fully drained on such a truck.

    Effectively a trip from Seattle to Yakima and back (143 miles one way distance). This is a short haul for trucks. A truck may have to make this trip twice in a day. An electric truck can't do it. A diesel truck can.
    Oh...and this trip goes over several mountain passes, further reducing range.
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