Insight into the Trump voter mindset.

[LurchAddams]

I see, so you're content being a complete failure.

Interesting.

I guess when you fail as often as you do, you just become more comfortable with that than anything else.

You can't cite your proof because your proof exists only in that pointed little head of yours...

If you and your MAGA buddies want to start winning hearts, stop being total traitorous dickheads.

[Tranquillus in Exile]

If he says he has billions of dollars but really doesn't, what impact does that have on you and yours?

Haven't you seen people say that he turned a few millions into billions, so he must be something really special?

But if he didn't do that - only claimed to have done it - that would make him a liar.

What impact would having a big-time liar for president have on ordinary people? America survived four years of it at the cost of much division and bitterness,
even hatred. Now he wants another go.


Btw, it is possible to start with nothing and make billions. I could give examples. But Trump didn't do that.

It's the same with his vaunted academic record. Trump's lawyers threatened his alma maters with criminal penalties if they revealed a word about it. Why?

[Street Glider]

Yeah. I'm sorry your coup failed and your getting your ass kicked in the last two elections, MAGA. Go nurse your wounds somewhere else. We're weary of your MAGA bullying.

You're a failure.

Go fuck yourself.

[Street Glider]

Haven't you seen people say that he turned a few millions into billions, so he must be something really special?

But if he didn't do that - only claimed to have done it - that would make him a liar.

What impact would having a big-time liar for president have on ordinary people? America survived four years of it at the cost of much division and bitterness,
even hatred. Now he wants another go.


Btw, it is possible to start with nothing and make billions. I could give examples. But Trump didn't do that.

It's the same with his vaunted academic record. Trump's lawyers threatened his alma maters with criminal penalties if they revealed a word about it. Why?

You failed to answer the question.

How does it adversely affect YOU?

[Nordberg]

Please define "voting against their own best interests."

That makes zero sense.

And all of Trump's wealth did not come from his father. That's absurd.

It didn't? He went bankrupt a few times. Who saved him? His dad illegally attempted to keep his casinos afloat and failed. His dad was a real billionaire and Trump and his sisters confiscated as much as they could of his fortune. Trump went bankrupt and the banks saved him from going flat broke. They could have watched him suffer. Daddy was a slumlord and a bigot.. Daffy Donald was too good for that.

[LurchAddams]

You're a failure.

Go fuck yourself.

You have a nice day, too! Come back and chat when you find a clue.

[floridafan]

That's not an answer to the question, though.

If he says he has billions of dollars and he doesn't, how does that adversely impact you and your family?

It just goes to prove what a pathetic liar he has always been

[Street Glider]

It just goes to prove what a pathetic liar he has always been

Okay, so it proves he's a liar.

But that doesn't answer the question. How are YOU adversely affected?

Are you, your spouse or your children emotionally damaged when someone tells a lie?

[Street Glider]

It didn't? He went bankrupt a few times. Who saved him? His dad illegally attempted to keep his casinos afloat and failed. His dad was a real billionaire and Trump and his sisters confiscated as much as they could of his fortune. Trump went bankrupt and the banks saved him from going flat broke. They could have watched him suffer. Daddy was a slumlord and a bigot.. Daffy Donald was too good for that.

When did Trump file for personal bankruptcy?

[domer76]

You cited some imaginary poll as proof, but you provided nothing to support the claim you were making.

Now you want me to provide "citations" to prove what you said is true?

Yeah, that's not how this works, Nancy...

The historian ranking was posted on another thread just a few days ago on this very forum. Look it up.

The citations requested were about my dishonesty and made up poll numbers. So far, you have not demonstrated that either exists.

Tick tock. The clock is running.

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
1. When you vote for a political system that has consistently provided tax breaks for the wealthier portion of society while leaving the burden of country's revenue deficit to the non-wealthy (aka YOU), that's voting against your best interest. When you vote for a political system that reduces accountability of products (medical, mechanical, economic) from the producers and limits/prevents the ability of the recipient/customer to seek legal accountability for damages received via faulty products or unscrupulous practices that is voting against your best interest. When you vote for a political system that takes away your ability of choice with regards to the most personal decisions in life that involve only your body and your immediate family, that is voting against your best interest. I could go on, but that's the top 3 to date.

2. Oh it makes sense if you stop being willfully ignorant and intellectually dishonest regarding ALL the information available (see #1).

3. I didn't say it did, so stop this stupid ass tactic that right wing wonks continuously use when dealing with facts that contradict their edicts. As I did 33 years ago, I point out now a simple matter of history & fact. Not only did Trump start his "career" with a fantastic monetary "gift" from dear old dad, he also given privy to business connections, and later inherited all business and property owning. Do a little research into Daddy Trump and what little Donny came into. Once you get a little more educated on the subject, you might stop these absurd rebuttals of yours.

voting to eliminate gas before having a replacement fuel is against the best interest of most of humanity. yet you do it.

Note, dear readers, the typical MAGA shuffle....not having the cojones to concede a point (aka: admitting that they are wrong), our resident MAGA Asshat merely changes the subject by shifting to a different (and yet another) baseless accusation.

The OP stands valid, much to the consternation of our intellectually dishonest and impotent Asshat.

[Taichiliberal]

you dems are elitist envirowacko mass murderers.

this is why this MAGA Asshat practically lives on my ignore list. He can't logically or factually refute or disprove the OP, so he just explodes with mental diarrhea. He's done, and I'm done with him.

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
1. When you vote for a political system that has consistently provided tax breaks for the wealthier portion of society while leaving the burden of country's revenue deficit to the non-wealthy (aka YOU), that's voting against your best interest. When you vote for a political system that reduces accountability of products (medical, mechanical, economic) from the producers and limits/prevents the ability of the recipient/customer to seek legal accountability for damages received via faulty products or unscrupulous practices that is voting against your best interest. When you vote for a political system that takes away your ability of choice with regards to the most personal decisions in life that involve only your body and your immediate family, that is voting against your best interest. I could go on, but that's the top 3 to date.

2. Oh it makes sense if you stop being willfully ignorant and intellectually dishonest regarding ALL the information available (see #1).

3. I didn't say it did, so stop this stupid ass tactic that right wing wonks continuously use when dealing with facts that contradict their edicts. As I did 33 years ago, I point out now a simple matter of history & fact. Not only did Trump start his "career" with a fantastic monetary "gift" from dear old dad, he also given privy to business connections, and later inherited all business and property owning. Do a little research into Daddy Trump and what little Donny came into. Once you get a little more educated on the subject, you might stop these absurd rebuttals of yours.

1. A poor person has never given me a job. Giving tax breaks to employers benefits many besides the employer. Furthermore, if you confiscated every dime from duh rich, it would run the Federal gubmint for about nine days. I would rather see a company get to keep more of their OWN money than handing out checks to lazy fucks, who contribute nothing to society, to sit on their sofas. I don't want a handout.

And "a political system which takes away your ability of choice with personal decisions in life that involves only your body?" I present the jab or job mandates. I'll just leave it at that.

2. We are all dealt a set of cards and have to play them to the best of our abilities. Life isn't fair, that is just how it is. I don't begrudge anyone who was born into wealth.

Therefore, your proclamation of "voting against your best interest" is purely subjective as I see it completely opposite from you. Voting Democrat is the pinnacle of voting against your own self interests and I will add -- freedom.

1. Your first sentence is a superfluous moot point. Your second sentence never came to fruition during the Reagan Bush/Bush years. Period. Your 3rd statement is pure ignorant babble, as only a flunky would categorize fair taxation as "confiscating every dime from duh rich" (of which there has never been such a proposal). Bone up on your history, because when you had a higher tax rate on the wealthy there was NEVER a shortage or decrease of millionaires in America. And WTF are you babbling about "handing out checks"? Wages are EARNED, you blathering fool. If you're going to parrot some idiocy about welfare, that's another topic. Stick to what I previously laid out, of which you obviously have no logical or rational rebuttal.

You present the "jab mandates?" Fine. Then explain to the reading audience how you throw a hissy fit about mandates for vaccinations, but are perfectly fine with mandates that tell a woman when to have a child and will penalize her if she chooses not to. We'll wait.

2. Boy, you do have a talent for sucking rich boy's asses and blowing smoke at the same time. Your little ditty does NOTHING to change the facts the OP referred to. Seems like my co-worker of 33 years ago, you're just another dunce who gushes at the thought of shaking the hand or getting an autograph from someone who builds hotels you can't afford and who wipes his feet on you by outsourcing labor, using Chinese steel instead of American and gleefully admits he enjoys tax loopholes you can't afford.

Only a MAGA moron would vote for a party that takes away a woman's personal right of a medical decision and calls it "freedom". Goebbels would be proud of ya, toodles. Carry on.

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
First off, your life story instances seem to change to suit whatever right wing wonk narrative your spewing.

Nonsense.

I would love to see you demonstrate how it has...

Here's the glaring flaw in your attempt at a comparative tale: Your subject WAS NOT BORN INTO WEALTH AND PRIVILEGE. He was NOT ADDITIONALLY GIVEN MILLIONS and inherit a list of high end business connections, along with high end banks willing to gamble large loans on his project. Also, he would ADDITIONALLY INHERIT all business and properties owned by dear old dad. You may want to educate yourself as regarding Dump's relationship with Deutsche Bank in his early days.

So yeah, your last sentence is basic moot points and a BS conclusion.

The assertion was made that he was a poor businessman.

He started with millions. He now has billions. Sorry, but that's just not the mark of a bad businessman. If not "good", certainly shrewd. Perhaps unethical. But the guy knows how to make a buck, and it's just silly to pretend that he doesn't...

1. Yes, your rebuttals and claims are nonsense. I established that for the reading audience on a previous exchange. That you don't accept the logical challenges to your blather is only important to the fool you see in the mirror. Seems that ass whupping is sticking in your craw, so your trying your luck here. Sad.

2. Newsflash, toodles. I never asserted, alluded or insinuated that the Orange Oaf was a poor businessman. THAT WAS THE POINT I MADE 33 YEARS AGO TO THE OTHER FOOL ENAMORED OF DUMP. That is the major flaw in your comparison. Whether you accept the sheer logic of such or not is irrelevant.

3. Repeating Dump's standard PR praise is pathetic. Obviously, you're ignorant (willful or genuine) of his odyssey with Deutsche Bank, or his bankruptcy filings, or the numerous failed ventures. Essentially, without Daddy's stake and stipend, Dump would just be another real estate con man on the hustle...of no recognition. As the New York DA's office will prove, his financial house of cards will soon come to an end.

The OP stands valid, despite all your smoke blowing. Carry on.

[Street Glider]

1. Yes, your rebuttals and claims are nonsense. I established that for the reading audience on a previous exchange. That you don't accept the logical challenges to your blather is only important to the fool you see in the mirror. Seems that ass whupping is sticking in your craw, so your trying your luck here. Sad.

2. Newsflash, toodles. I never asserted, alluded or insinuated that the Orange Oaf was a poor businessman. THAT WAS THE POINT I MADE 33 YEARS AGO TO THE OTHER FOOL ENAMORED OF DUMP. That is the major flaw in your comparison. Whether you accept the sheer logic of such or not is irrelevant.

3. Repeating Dump's standard PR praise is pathetic. Obviously, you're ignorant (willful or genuine) of his odyssey with Deutsche Bank, or his bankruptcy filings, or the numerous failed ventures. Essentially, without Daddy's stake and stipend, Dump would just be another real estate con man on the hustle...of no recognition. As the New York DA's office will prove, his financial house of cards will soon come to an end.

The OP stands valid, despite all your smoke blowing. Carry on.

Yeah, you fail.

Again.