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    Default Insight into the Trump voter mindset.

    Back in 1989, I was working in NYC in a small office for a magazine consultant. This was during the time when our future President Donald Trump was making a name for himself in the public eye with a best seller book (The Art of the Deal) touting his real estate and entrepreneur skills and achievements. He was all over local and national TV affiliates, showing off his gold laden home, current pin-up wife, etc.

    One of my co-workers, an Italian-American woman in her late 50’s, was quite enamored of Mr. Trump. She constantly expressed admiration as to his “self made” accomplishments. One day, I pointed out that Trump was BORN into wealth, given access to education and business connections people like her (and myself) could never dream to have....not to mention starting his “career” with a few million from dear old dad. To call him “self made” would be a bit of a stretch, to say the least.

    “Well”, she stubbornly stated, “it’s what he did with that money on his own that counts!”

    I found this declaration jaw dropping for this reason; this same woman turned up her nose at joining the office pool for the local lottery. Her reason being that she didn’t like the idea of “people always wanting something for nothing”. She was oblivious to the glaring double -standard of her attitude towards her fellow wage earners and that of Mr. Trump.

    If she is still alive today, I have no doubt she voted for Trump ... As I am sure that her attitude served as an integral part of the basis for the many others who did.

    33 years, and I’m still amazed at how some people will vote against their own best interests for others who essentially use them as doormats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    Back in 1989, I was working in NYC in a small office for a magazine consultant. This was during the time when our future President Donald Trump was making a name for himself in the public eye with a best seller book (The Art of the Deal) touting his real estate and entrepreneur skills and achievements. He was all over local and national TV affiliates, showing off his gold laden home, current pin-up wife, etc.

    One of my co-workers, an Italian-American woman in her late 50’s, was quite enamored of Mr. Trump. She constantly expressed admiration as to his “self made” accomplishments. One day, I pointed out that Trump was BORN into wealth, given access to education and business connections people like her (and myself) could never dream to have....not to mention starting his “career” with a few million from dear old dad. To call him “self made” would be a bit of a stretch, to say the least.

    “Well”, she stubbornly stated, “it’s what he did with that money on his own that counts!”

    I found this declaration jaw dropping for this reason; this same woman turned up her nose at joining the office pool for the local lottery. Her reason being that she didn’t like the idea of “people always wanting something for nothing”. She was oblivious to the glaring double -standard of her attitude towards her fellow wage earners and that of Mr. Trump.

    If she is still alive today, I have no doubt she voted for Trump ... As I am sure that her attitude served as an integral part of the basis for the many others who did.

    33 years, and I’m still amazed at how some people will vote against their own best interests for others who essentially use them as doormats.
    he did do well in expanding what he was given.

    and gambling is ultimately mostly stupid.

    sensible woman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    Back in 1989, I was working in NYC in a small office for a magazine consultant. This was during the time when our future President Donald Trump was making a name for himself in the public eye with a best seller book (The Art of the Deal) touting his real estate and entrepreneur skills and achievements. He was all over local and national TV affiliates, showing off his gold laden home, current pin-up wife, etc.

    One of my co-workers, an Italian-American woman in her late 50’s, was quite enamored of Mr. Trump. She constantly expressed admiration as to his “self made” accomplishments. One day, I pointed out that Trump was BORN into wealth, given access to education and business connections people like her (and myself) could never dream to have....not to mention starting his “career” with a few million from dear old dad. To call him “self made” would be a bit of a stretch, to say the least.

    “Well”, she stubbornly stated, “it’s what he did with that money on his own that counts!”

    I found this declaration jaw dropping for this reason; this same woman turned up her nose at joining the office pool for the local lottery. Her reason being that she didn’t like the idea of “people always wanting something for nothing”. She was oblivious to the glaring double -standard of her attitude towards her fellow wage earners and that of Mr. Trump.

    If she is still alive today, I have no doubt she voted for Trump ... As I am sure that her attitude served as an integral part of the basis for the many others who did.

    33 years, and I’m still amazed at how some people will vote against their own best interests for others who essentially use them as doormats.
    Please define "voting against their own best interests."

    That makes zero sense.

    And all of Trump's wealth did not come from his father. That's absurd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Life is Golden View Post
    And all of Trump's wealth did not come from his father.
    That's true. A good part of it came from stiffing contractors, especially small ones who couldn't fight back, and multiple bankruptcies.

    Then there were big loans from Deutsche Bank when nobody else would touch him. Why they did it, and where the money really came from, we don't know.
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    Insight into the Trump voter mindset.

    In the absence of a mind, what serves as a "mindset?"

    I'm an Italian-American with a mind.
    If I had ever voted for Trump, it would have been the responsibility of my family to have me immediately euthanized.
    My own parents would have in all probability arisen from their graves to crush my throat for the humiliation I inflicted on the family.
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    Religion....is the opiate of the people. Karl Marx, 1848
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    Back in 1989, I was working in NYC in a small office for a magazine consultant. This was during the time when our future President Donald Trump was making a name for himself in the public eye with a best seller book (The Art of the Deal) touting his real estate and entrepreneur skills and achievements. He was all over local and national TV affiliates, showing off his gold laden home, current pin-up wife, etc.

    One of my co-workers, an Italian-American woman in her late 50’s, was quite enamored of Mr. Trump. She constantly expressed admiration as to his “self made” accomplishments. One day, I pointed out that Trump was BORN into wealth, given access to education and business connections people like her (and myself) could never dream to have....not to mention starting his “career” with a few million from dear old dad. To call him “self made” would be a bit of a stretch, to say the least.

    “Well”, she stubbornly stated, “it’s what he did with that money on his own that counts!”

    I found this declaration jaw dropping for this reason; this same woman turned up her nose at joining the office pool for the local lottery. Her reason being that she didn’t like the idea of “people always wanting something for nothing”. She was oblivious to the glaring double -standard of her attitude towards her fellow wage earners and that of Mr. Trump.

    If she is still alive today, I have no doubt she voted for Trump ... As I am sure that her attitude served as an integral part of the basis for the many others who did.

    33 years, and I’m still amazed at how some people will vote against their own best interests for others who essentially use them as doormats.
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    Trump went bankrupt several times. If his dad did not leave him a pile of money he would be a doorman at a casino. Trump bankrupted 3 casinos. How could anyone do that? Trump way, way overextended himself when he bought casinos. When it came due, he did not have it. That is not a bright businessman.
    I read that some banks decided not to take him down to zero, because they thought his name was worth something to them. Trump was seen as high quality and elite. So they built hotels and apartments and put his name on them. They allowed him to manage them. That saved trump's flabby ass.
    A real billionaire would not host a reality TV show.

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    How Donald Trump became Deutsche Bank's biggest headache

    Deutsche has not explained why it continued to bankroll Trump and his real estate deals. Even before the 2008 legal dispute [he refused to pay what he owed on a personal guarantee, and counter-sued the bank for $3 billion], Trump’s chequered business record was infamous. Other financial houses in New York refused to give him credit, following a string of failed ventures including an airline and a casino empire in Atlantic City.

    https://www.theguardian.com/business...ggest-headache


    But he did do well in expanding what he was given - right, AssHat? Lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    he did do well in expanding what he was given.

    and gambling is ultimately mostly stupid.

    sensible woman.
    Pretty funny, like saying you hit a home run when you were standing on third base, what was Donnie’s line, “my dad only gave me a couple of million?”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Life is Golden View Post
    Please define "voting against their own best interests."

    That makes zero sense.

    And all of Trump's wealth did not come from his father. That's absurd.
    As the old saying goes, if you want to make a lot money, start with a lot of money

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    That's true. A good part of it came from stiffing contractors, especially small ones who couldn't fight back, and multiple bankruptcies.

    Then there were big loans from Deutsche Bank when nobody else would touch him. Why they did it, and where the money really came from, we don't know.
    Hey, we heard him, that makes him smart

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    Quote Originally Posted by Life is Golden View Post
    Please define "voting against their own best interests."

    That makes zero sense.

    And all of Trump's wealth did not come from his father. That's absurd.
    Well, the best example is when Republicans paint themselves as "the party of the working man", then do nothing but make things harder for working men and women. They'll cut taxes for the wealthy and corporations, making the rich richer, but ignore the non-wealthy. Mississippi letting Jackson's water system fail is one of the best current examples of letting the poor fend for themselves.

    They'll do photo ops in factories and tell you they're going to "bring back manufacturing jobs", like twump did, but once they get the votes, those promises are forgotten.

    So, there you go.
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    There will come a day where Donald Trump is gone, but the dishonor of those who carried his water will remain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Pretty funny, like saying you hit a home run when you were standing on third base, what was Donnie’s line, “my dad only gave me a couple of million?”
    When I was stationed at FLEASWTRACEN in San Diego, one of the other instructors hit the California lottery. If memory serves, he won around million dollars.

    The Navy made immediate moves to discharge him, the thought being that an enlisted guy with that kind of money would be, at best, difficult to deal with. He fought to stay in. He had 14 years in at the time and it was very, very important to him that he retire from the Navy. His father and Grandfather were both retired Navy. His brother was only a year or two away from retiring. A life serving the military was what his family did, and he was distressed at the thought of not being able to do it.

    Anyway, he got a lawyer and appealed the decision to separate him from the Navy. The case went all the way to CINCPACFLT, who ultimately decided that he should be permitted to remain in the Navy, especially considering that there had never been a single disciplinary mark in his service jacket, and there was no reason to believe that would change.

    And that was a fortunate decision for the instructor, as he was pretty much broke a year before he retired.

    It's not easy making money. Oftentimes it's even harder holding onto it. If Trump turned "a few million" into billions, it's hard to criticize that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Street Glider View Post
    When I was stationed at FLEASWTRACEN in San Diego, one of the other instructors hit the California lottery. If memory serves, he won around million dollars.

    The Navy made immediate moves to discharge him, the thought being that an enlisted guy with that kind of money would be, at best, difficult to deal with. He fought to stay in. He had 14 years in at the time and it was very, very important to him that he retire from the Navy. His father and Grandfather were both retired Navy. His brother was only a year or two away from retiring. A life serving the military was what his family did, and he was distressed at the thought of not being able to do it.

    Anyway, he got a lawyer and appealed the decision to separate him from the Navy. The case went all the way to CINCPACFLT, who ultimately decided that he should be permitted to remain in the Navy, especially considering that there had never been a single disciplinary mark in his service jacket, and there was no reason to believe that would change.

    And that was a fortunate decision for the instructor, as he was pretty much broke a year before he retired.

    It's not easy making money. Oftentimes it's even harder holding onto it. If Trump turned "a few million" into billions, it's hard to criticize that...
    False equivalency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    False equivalency.
    How so?
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