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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    Nothing is more boring than a Church of No God member bitching about "bible thumpers".
    So don't read my posts. Couldn't give a shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenyx View Post
    So recently, a poster here who I'm not sure if I should mention the name of given Rule 1 sent me a private message. He reminded me to some extent of a group of friendly Jehova witnesses who spent some time trying to convert me to their religion back when I lived in the state of Yucatan, Mexico. So after a few messages, I find that I couldn't respond to him anymore because his mailbox was full. Perhaps he'll make some space in his mailbox soon and I'll be able to send him my response.

    But in the meantime, I thought I'd basically give my take on the bible here. In essence, I consider it a mix of history and fiction. I doubt I'd ever be able to prove that any of it is fictional, but I also doubt that anyone would be able to prove that all of is the truth, at least to anyone who doesn't just take it on faith.

    Ironically, until reading a book called "The Da Vinci Code", and later watching it as a film, I never really questioned a lot of things that the bible and Christianity said were true. The Da Vinci Code book got the wheels in my mind turning, but it bills itself as a book of fiction, and the movie does as well. What really got me going was when I picked up a copy of one of the books that it used as source material, namely Holy Blood, Holy Grail. Since reading it, I know that it's had its fair share of critics, and even while reading it, there were some passages that I found dubious. Nevertheless, I found it immensely more interesting then what I had previously thought of the bible and christianity as a whole.

    As to my own religion, I've been Pantheist ever since I found out that it essentially mirrored beliefs I'd developed on my own before hearing about it.

    Anyway, some reference links:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Da_Vinci_Code

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ho...the_Holy_Grail

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism
    In a way, yes.

    Christianity as a whole is a religion based on the belief that Jesus Christ is precisely who he says he is, namely the Son of God. Christianity (and The Bible that is its holy text) cannot be proven or disproven. It can logically only be accepted as True (or rejected as False) by faith and faith alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenyx View Post
    I've managed to have a few good conversations with them, but what tends to be the stumper is that they seem to think everyone should just take their word for it that the bible is the "word of god".
    There is supporting evidence both for and against Christianity being true. The truth of Christianity, however, cannot be proven or disproven. It requires a "leap of faith" to accept or reject Christianity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenyx View Post
    I suspect the issue has more to do with what their parents and/or others close to them taught them growing up.
    While that is definitely an influence, people can and do have their own experiences in life which will have an effect on what they believe, regardless of how they were raised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    God exists because the bible says so.
    The bible has to be right because it's the word of god.
    No circular logic there.
    Of course it's circular reasoning, but there's nothing wrong with that in and of itself.

    Christianity (like any other religion) is based on some sort of initial circular argument. Circular arguments can only logically be accepted/rejected on a faith basis, as they cannot be proven true/false.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    So don't read my posts. Couldn't give a shit.
    So don't read posts about The Bible. Yet, here you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    So don't read posts about The Bible. Yet, here you are.
    fuck off troll

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    Of course it's circular reasoning, but there's nothing wrong with that in and of itself.

    Christianity (like any other religion) is based on some sort of initial circular argument. Circular arguments can only logically be accepted/rejected on a faith basis, as they cannot be proven true/false.
    While SCOTUS interpretation of "one nation under God with equal justice under law" is Islamidiotocracy Mohammed pedophilia protected & served by Christiananality pedophilia....

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Nothing is more boring than bible thumpers.
    don't sell yourself short......
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    don't sell yourself short......
    fuck you asshole

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenyx View Post
    I've managed to have a few good conversations with them, but what tends to be the stumper is that they seem to think everyone should just take their word for it that the bible is the "word of god".
    nobody requires it, but obviously you either believe it or you don't.......there is no third option........
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    So don't read my posts. Couldn't give a shit.
    works both ways, sunshine......
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    fuck off troll
    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    fuck you asshole

    oops.....looks like someone just noticed he lost another argument......
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    The Bible has been debunked for generations. It's a collection of fairy tales, and anyone who denies this is either ignorant or deceitful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Nothing is more boring than bible thumpers.
    For turkey day one could theorize their bible thumping brainwashing of the New Testament & Koran is little more than suicidal super ego pedophilia; but then they just become cross conditioned way beyond therapy sociopsychopaths with boring lynching enforcement mass neuroses of fascism disorder as SCOTUS Fourth Reich July 9/11 exposed.

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