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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Two vintage WWII military aircraft participating in an airshow near Dallas, collided in midair then immediately crashed into the ground and exploded in flames.

    A Bell P-63 King Cobra collided with a B-17 Flying Fortress. Total killed hasn't been released pending notification of next of kin, but a spokesperson noted that the B-17 was typically carrying 4-5 people (it had crew of 10 in WWII) and the P-63 was a single-seat aircraft.

    https://www.fox4news.com/news/dallas...-airport-crash

    Wow, I saw an air show in Maryland just a couple weeks ago with a bomber and planes just like that, I wonder if it was the same planes.

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    The airshow organizers are taking heat for overcrowding the flight pattern, a factor that could be part of yesterday's tragedy.

    As the initial video showed, the visibility out of the P-63 could be another factor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Port Tack View Post
    Wow, I saw an air show in Maryland just a couple weeks ago with a bomber and planes just like that, I wonder if it was the same planes.
    The CAF does airshows around the nation. Bombers are usually named. This one was "Texas Raiders" and had red trim.


    https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/...-show-93213596
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    6 people, flying 70+ year old aircraft in a confined airspace?
    What could go wrong?

    They knew the risks.
    No one forced them to fly in these planes at the show.
    They died, doing what 'they loved'.
    Big deal.


    Also yesterday?
    60+ Americans were murdered.
    395 Americans were raped.
    And 550K Americans (40% of the men are veterans) were homeless.

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/us-murder...estimates-show
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/...sa-since-1990/
    https://policyadvice.net/insurance/i...ss-statistics/

    You people obviously care far more about the six who died in the air crash (since I see no threads - yet - talking about the huge numbers of murders/rapes/homeless...started today).
    I care FAR more about the others I mentioned.

    I guess I am just funny that way.

    No wonder America/humanity is SO fucked up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    The CAF does airshows around the nation. Bombers are usually named. This one was "Texas Raiders" and had red trim.


    https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/...-show-93213596
    I don't think it was the same ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McRocket View Post
    6 people, flying 70+ year old aircraft in a confined airspace?
    What could go wrong?

    They knew the risks.
    No one forced them to fly in these planes at the show.
    They died, doing what 'they loved'.
    Big deal.


    Also yesterday?
    60+ Americans were murdered.
    395 Americans were raped.
    And 550K Americans (40% of the men are veterans) were homeless.

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/us-murder...estimates-show
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/...sa-since-1990/
    https://policyadvice.net/insurance/i...ss-statistics/

    You people obviously care far more about the six who died in the air crash (since I see no threads - yet - talking about the huge numbers of murders/rapes/homeless...started today).
    I care FAR more about the others I mentioned.

    I guess I am just funny that way.

    No wonder America/humanity is SO fucked up.
    60+ Americans were murdered.


    Most were blacks killed by blacks...yet all u POS care about is when a black is killed by a white cop

    Black homicide rates are seven to eight times those of whites,,,but u only care when one is killed by a white cop




    (40% of the men are veterans) were homeless.


    LIAR


    The leading causes of homelessness among vets are PTSD, social isolation, unemployment, and substance abuse. Veterans account for 11% of homeless adults in the US.Sep 29, 2022





    https://policyadvice.net/insurance/i...ns-statistics/
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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    Looks like he hit the B 17 on purpose
    Ya it does....I would like to hear from some airshow pilots on this.
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    It looks like the P-63 pilot (the other plane involved) was rolled away from the B-17 and likely couldn't see it from his cockpit. The B-17 really couldn't dodge or do anything to avoid this accident.



    That would be a mistake in situational awareness that ended up fatal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    60+ Americans were murdered.


    Most were blacks killed by blacks...yet all u POS care about is when a black is killed by a white cop

    Black homicide rates are seven to eight times those of whites,,,but u only care when one is killed by a white cop




    (40% of the men are veterans) were homeless.


    LIAR


    The leading causes of homelessness among vets are PTSD, social isolation, unemployment, and substance abuse. Veterans account for 11% of homeless adults in the US.Sep 29, 2022

    https://policyadvice.net/insurance/i...ns-statistics/
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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    It looks like the P-63 pilot (the other plane involved) was rolled away from the B-17 and likely couldn't see it from his cockpit. The B-17 really couldn't dodge or do anything to avoid this accident.

    https://i0.wp.com/cms.sofrep.com/wp-...0%2C1066&ssl=1


    That would be a mistake in situational awareness that ended up fatal.
    Agreed. One mistake was having the faster aircraft at the same altitude as the slower bombers.
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    It looks like the P-63 pilot (the other plane involved) was rolled away from the B-17 and likely couldn't see it from his cockpit. The B-17 really couldn't dodge or do anything to avoid this accident.

    That would be a mistake in situational awareness that ended up fatal.
    That would be gross incompetence.

    I will be very interested to hear who this pilot was....if we are allowed to know.....which cant be assumed in 2022.
    I choose my own words like the Americans of olden times........before this dystopia arrived.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    The CAF does airshows around the nation. Bombers are usually named. This one was "Texas Raiders" and had red trim.


    https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/...-show-93213596
    When I worked at Gulf Stream in Savannah the CFA used the airport to stage a few airshows for myrtle beach and charleston, B-17 and Russian Yaks , seeing them running up close on the taxi way was amazing

    The Bell P-63 Kingcobra were used by the Red airforce in WWII and the B-17 bombed the shit out of Germany
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    Quote Originally Posted by McRocket View Post
    Also yesterday?

    (40% of the men are veterans) were homeless.
    This is utter bullshit. The reason veterans are grossly overrated in surveys of homeless people is they are only required to self-report. That is the survey taker asks if they're a veteran, and if the person answers "yes," they suddenly are a veteran. There is no verification process, and homeless men have every reason to lie if they think it will get them something.



    Art imitates life. If you were a veteran, like me, and whenever you saw a transient panhandling with a sign about being a veteran and asked--like I do,

    "So, which branch were you in?" "What was your MOS (NEC AFSC as appropriate)?" "Where were stationed?"

    Real veterans can tell you that in an instant. US Navy, 3384 nuclear power electrician, USS Nashville, USS Enterprise, NSA Bahrain, etc. They can't. They claim that status to get sympathy and more money.
    The few that are homeless are mostly not the sort that served well. Most are "veterans" for having managed to do 90 + days in the service before screwing up and getting booted out for something (often drug use).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    That would be gross incompetence.

    I will be very interested to hear who this pilot was....if we are allowed to know.....which cant be assumed in 2022.
    Why is it important to you to know who the pilot was
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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    Why is it important to you to know who the pilot was
    Because a really bad thing happened vie either pilot error or malevolence, and I would like it to not happen again. I have heard reports in recent years that as the old timers have died much younger often not well trained pilots have taken over flying these planes at airshows. Maybe we need a new certification program run by the FAA.
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