‘There Are Two Americas Now: One With a B.A. and One Without’

[martin]

People who call Jordan Peterson stupid would say anything, nothing they have to say after that matters.

Jordan Peterson is a political extremist, or was. Severe depression reportedly forced him from the scene some time ago, to the regret of such estimable publications as...The Daily Wire. Colleges and universities are not all the same, believe it or not. Many still are receiving more qualified enrollment applications than they can admit. Many are producing quality graduates. Cost is the biggest problem at universities. A more general problem is the dumbing down of popular culture in the age of social media, and it hasn't helped having a colossal ignoramus named Trump at its top the last six years.

[Cypress]

The people who complain the most about university education and liberal arts degrees tend to be people who never graduated college.

Degrees acquired by people in my immediate family include art history, English, music, sociology, graphic design, Slavic studies. Exactly zero of them had careers at Starbucks or Taco Bell.

[Bigdog]

Did you play it?

Long but good.

Yep, and I didn't know she was a lesbian.

[SmarterthanYou]

The people who complain the most about university education and liberal arts degrees tend to be people who never graduated college.

Degrees acquired by people in my immediate family include art history, English, music, sociology, graphic design, Slavic studies. Exactly zero of them had careers at Starbucks or Taco Bell.

right, LOL. I'm also told by certain people here that one can't have a successful and lucrative career without going to college, or at least obtaining 'official' education in the field.......i'm guessing that is supposed to mean attending 'official' classes and graduating or something..........

we all know that's a fucking lie

[Cypress]

right, LOL. I'm also told by certain people here that one can't have a successful and lucrative career without going to college, or at least obtaining 'official' education in the field.......i'm guessing that is supposed to mean attending 'official' classes and graduating or something..........

we all know that's a fucking lie

You can search until the cows come home and you won't find any posts from me saying electricians, welders, and small business entrepreneurs can't have a successfull and financially rewarding life.

[SmarterthanYou]

You can search until the cows come home and you won't find any posts from me saying electricians, welders, and small business entrepreneurs can't have a successfull and financially rewarding life.

though I replied to your post, I wasn't specifically pointing to you. for that, I apologize. there's a certain someone on this board who knows that i'm talking to them.........since they make such an issue out of higher education.

[Celticguy]

The liberal arts colleges are getting crushed first.....they have nothing to offer.....they are political enterprises now.

BAs have become the butt of jokes and for good reason.

Heck, I have one and its been as useless as claimed.

So yes, its easy to see that the left have an over abundance of BAs while the right has an over abundance of BSs.

Any wonder why its the left begging for student loan forgiveness ? Cant make enough money to make the payments.

[Hawkeye10]

BAs have become the butt of jokes and for good reason.

Heck, I have one and its been as useless as claimed.

So yes, its easy to see that the left have an over abundance of BAs while the right has an over abundance of BSs.

Any wonder why its the left begging for student loan forgiveness ? Cant make enough money to make the payments.

And if the goal to to gain WOKE Commissar Accreditation one needs to be in a program set up just for that, in a grievance studies program. Liberal Arts has no purpose in WOKE.

[Flash]

Case and Deaton contend that the ballots cast for Donald Trump by members of the white working class “are surely not for a president who will dismantle safety nets but against a Democratic Party that represents an alliance between minorities — whom working-class whites see as displacing them and challenging their once solid if unperceived privilege — and an educated elite that has benefited from globalization and from a soaring stock market, which was fueled by the rising profitability of those same firms that were increasingly denying jobs to the working class.”

Education divides everything, including connection to the labor market, marriage, connection to institutions (like organized religion), physical and mental health, and mortality. It does so for whites, Blacks and Hispanics. There has been a profound (not yet complete) convergence in life expectancy by education. There are two Americas now: one with a B.A. and one without.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/05/o...education.html

A lot of this description fits the Hillbilly Elegy book/movie explanation of the Trump movement. It was written by J. D. Vance who was anti-Trump but now the Republican candidate for Senate in OH.

[Doc Dutch]

There are those who allowed their minds to be molded/wrecked at the failed universities, and those who did not.

Translation: There are those with BAs and then there are drunken Chinese bots without.

I have both a BA and an MS. It was the Marine Corps that molded my mind and I turned out okay.

[Doc Dutch]

A lot of this description fits the Hillbilly Elegy book/movie explanation of the Trump movement. It was written by J. D. Vance who was anti-Trump but now the Republican candidate for Senate in OH.

Meth and fentanyl are terrible drugs. Notice that Trumpers only care about those drugs and not heroin, ecstasy or other drugs.

[Doc Dutch]

BAs have become the butt of jokes and for good reason.

Heck, I have one and its been as useless as claimed.

So yes, its easy to see that the left have an over abundance of BAs while the right has an over abundance of BSs.

Any wonder why its the left begging for student loan forgiveness ? Cant make enough money to make the payments.

Soooo....your failure to launch is your degree? I have a BA in Psychology. It's just a foot in the door. The rest was up to me.

Winners take responsibility for their own lives. Losers blame others.

[ExpressLane]

Case and Deaton contend that the ballots cast for Donald Trump by members of the white working class “are surely not for a president who will dismantle safety nets but against a Democratic Party that represents an alliance between minorities — whom working-class whites see as displacing them and challenging their once solid if unperceived privilege — and an educated elite that has benefited from globalization and from a soaring stock market, which was fueled by the rising profitability of those same firms that were increasingly denying jobs to the working class.”

Education divides everything, including connection to the labor market, marriage, connection to institutions (like organized religion), physical and mental health, and mortality. It does so for whites, Blacks and Hispanics. There has been a profound (not yet complete) convergence in life expectancy by education. There are two Americas now: one with a B.A. and one without.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/05/o...education.html

And now the B.A.s want those that don't have them to pay for the B.A. s of others.

[Doc Dutch]

A BA is for students not intelligent enough to earn a BS. Like you.

^^^
Still believes Gov. Ron DeSantis is a decorated US Marine.

[Gondwanaland]

Case and Deaton contend that the ballots cast for Donald Trump by members of the white working class “are surely not for a president who will dismantle safety nets but against a Democratic Party that represents an alliance between minorities — whom working-class whites see as displacing them and challenging their once solid if unperceived privilege — and an educated elite that has benefited from globalization and from a soaring stock market, which was fueled by the rising profitability of those same firms that were increasingly denying jobs to the working class.”

Education divides everything, including connection to the labor market, marriage, connection to institutions (like organized religion), physical and mental health, and mortality. It does so for whites, Blacks and Hispanics. There has been a profound (not yet complete) convergence in life expectancy by education. There are two Americas now: one with a B.A. and one without.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/05/o...education.html

Meanwhile, intelligent people go learn a trade.