Reply With QuoteGuno צְבִי (10-05-2022)
Shaken, not stirred!
1. Off topic.Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner
2. You leave out the FACT that she was acting upon the wishes of her constituents, who pointed out that Amazon was NOT going to be giving comparable jobs to the small business owners it would displace.
3. you repeat a Trump/MAGA generalization that you cannot prove or corroborate. Also, there is a difference between asylum seekers and those deported for criminal offense. Let us know when you have proof of what you assert.
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Guno צְבִי (10-05-2022)
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Actually, her district was mostly pissed she ran Amazon off...
https://trendingpolitics.com/aoc-rec...-own-district/Many of the people that were polled were also very upset with her action to destroy the Amazon deal which would have brought thousands and thousands of jobs to New York City.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethba...trict-n2548423Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) may be the progressive left's favorite new Congresswoman, but according to a new poll released by Stop The AOC PAC, her constituents aren't fond of her.
The group walked throughout New York's 14th Congressional District, which covers Queens and the Bronx. They knocked on 10,556 doors and spoke to 22,546 voters. They discovered that:
• 58.2 percent of those surveyed were unfamiliar with Ocasio-Cortez.
• 50.8 percent of those surveyed had an unfavorable opinion of AOC.
• 56. 6 percent of those surveyed said they were unsure if Ocasio-Cortez had their district's best interest at heart.
• 33.4 percent of those surveyed said they would oppose AOC running for reelection next year.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...tez-us-adults/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...le-rating.htmlNew poll reveals AOC's firebrand style of politics is not popular with voters, with less than a quarter giving her a favorable rating
RB 60 (10-05-2022)
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They are putting them in a parking lot on the outskirts. You fucking fraud.
RB 60 (10-05-2022)
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Yawn.
Shaken, not stirred!
You do have a penchant for depending wholly upon right wing noise makers like Brietbart (a confirmed liar and criminal). Most of your sites "stats" do not give a source, and those that do are myopic in general (nationwide favorability by one poll is off topic).
Here's what you don't want to deal with:
What's True
Rep. Ocasio-Cortez was a vocal opponent of Amazon's opening a second headquarters in Queens, New York City.
What's False
Ocasio-Cortez was not the sole force behind Amazon's withdrawing their plan to open a site in New York City, and many other public officials and residents opposed the plan as well. Long Island City, where HQ2 was slated to be located, is also not in her district.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/al...cortez-amazon/
A more balanced review:
Ocasio-Cortez Fires Back At Critics Who Question Her Understanding of Amazon Deal
https://licpost.com/aoc-fires-back-a...of-amazon-deal
And this oldie:
Amazon HQ2 Controversy: What Did Jeff Bezos Want in NYC Anyway?
"[New York] is really a very weird choice by economic logic," said Joel Kotkin, an urban studies professor at Chapman University.
By Sissi Cao • 02/12/19 1:06pm
https://observer.com/2019/02/amazon-...erts-weigh-in/
During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.
George Orwell
Guno צְבִי (10-05-2022)
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So, your response is an ad hominem attacking the sources I provided then giving two dubious ones yourself.
Snopes' claim is disingenuous. What they do is essentially a Mote and Bailey fallacy. Snopes takes the original claim and inserts the word "solely" into their answer. No, she wasn't solely responsible for Amazon bailing, but as a member of Congress she played a significant part in that happening. Snopes downplays that in favor of saying there were others involved and that AOC wasn't solely responsible.
That is a classic use of the Mote and Bailey fallacy, substituting a harder to defend position for the more modest one in order to refute the claim that AOC ran Amazon off. For all intents, she was a major factor in that occurring and the position that she was one of the primary reasons, if not the only primary reason, Amazon left is reasonably arguable as true. That makes Snopes position indefensible.
As for your second choice, Licpost, this an interview with AOC where she is defending her actions. That has no bearing on the question at hand since AOC is, of course, going to justify her own actions in as positive a light a possible without critical review.
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They were moved to a better place, the mayor listened. Have a nice evening.
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Shaken, not stirred!
First off, stop trying to sound intelligent by using words and phrases that you obviously don't know how to apply to a sentence construct. I didn't "attack" you, unless you consider pointing out exactly what you do and then providing facts to the contrary an "attack". If that's the case, seek therapy.
As to the source material and links I provide....there is nothing "dubious" about ALL the information provided. You gave just one half and version...I gave the other. TFB if it didn't pan out as you would have liked.
Snopes didn't downplay or insert anything. They reported the FACTS that do not support the implications of the material you provided. Also, you stupidly trip on your on screed....remember, YOU and your ilk along with the MSM laid AOC the sole cause of the Amazon pullout of NYC. That was part of your attack against her record so as to discredit her criticizing Mayor Adams. Snopes clears the air on this with FACTS that take the wind out of the propaganda sails. Just google the incident and see the headlines in general with AOC promptly highlighted.
So much for your blathering about a fallacy, because the proof of what I say is in the easily researched historic record. Fox News, WABC Talk Radio, Clear Channel, NY POST, etc....they all point the finger squarely at AOC and no one else. That I used facts and logic to counter that BS just burns your keister. Tough.
And since neither you or any other right wing wonk can factually counter what AOC says in the interview, you just blow smoke. Also, you don't DARE touch the last link's inquiry. Typical.
During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.
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