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    Aristotle took it for granted that a democracy should be fully participatory (with some notable exceptions, like women and slaves) and that it should aim for the common good. In order to achieve that, it has to ensure relative equality, “moderate and sufficient property” and “lasting prosperity” for everyone.

    In other words, Aristotle felt that if you have extremes of poor and rich, you can’t talk seriously about democracy. Any true democracy has to be what we call today a welfare state—actually, an extreme form of one, far beyond anything envisioned in this century. (When I pointed this out at a press conference in Majorca, the
    headlines in the Spanish papers read something like, If Aristotle were alive today, he’d be denounced as a dangerous radical. That’s probably true.)


    https://1motorcyclist.files.wordpres...orld-works.pdf

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    Chomsky is an anarchist and a pig.

    The poor will always have with you.

    Matthew 26:11

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    James Madison, who was no fool, noted the same problem, but
    unlike Aristotle, he aimed to reduce democracy rather than poverty.
    He believed that the primary goal of government is “to protect the
    minority of the opulent against the majority.” As his colleague John
    Jay was fond of putting it, “T he people who own the country ought
    to govern it.”

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    The OP is just another argument in an attempt to change human nature. Humanity by its nature is not altruistic. To obtain equity among a society where the people in it are not physically, mentally, or otherwise all equal, and resources are less than universally abundant requires forced altruism on that society.

    al·tru·ism
    [ˈaltro͞oˌizəm]
    NOUN
    the belief in or practice of disinterested and selfless concern for the well-being of others
    You cannot realistically expect a group of people to always act selflessly, particularly when doing so is not in their own best interests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    The OP is just another argument in an attempt to change human nature. Humanity by its nature is not altruistic. To obtain equity among a society where the people in it are not physically, mentally, or otherwise all equal, and resources are less than universally abundant requires forced altruism on that society.



    You cannot realistically expect a group of people to always act selflessly, particularly when doing so is not in their own best interests.
    Nothing about altruism is in Chomsky or Aristotle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Nothing about altruism is in Chomsky or Aristotle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    troll

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Aristotle took it for granted that a democracy should be fully participatory (with some notable exceptions, like women and slaves) and that it should aim for the common good. In order to achieve that, it has to ensure relative equality, “moderate and sufficient property” and “lasting prosperity” for everyone.

    In other words, Aristotle felt that if you have extremes of poor and rich, you can’t talk seriously about democracy. Any true democracy has to be what we call today a welfare state—actually, an extreme form of one, far beyond anything envisioned in this century. (When I pointed this out at a press conference in Majorca, the
    headlines in the Spanish papers read something like, If Aristotle were alive today, he’d be denounced as a dangerous radical. That’s probably true.)


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    You seriously believe that what Chomsky and Aristotle said are 'Current Events'?

    Okaaaaay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McRocket View Post
    You seriously believe that what Chomsky and Aristotle said are 'Current Events'?

    Okaaaaay.
    shut up you stupid asshole

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    Another dud thread that has nada to do with a "Political forum for Current News Events."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Chomsky is an anarchist and a pig.

    The poor will always have with you.

    Matthew 26:11
    Said the goyim's dead man-god
    Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind. Albert Einstein

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    Those who can and do help pull civilization must be rewarded, they must have more than those who cant, or wont.
    The WOKE believe that they can be, and can make everything around them be, what ever they want it to be if they believe hard enough and if there is enough solidarity......because this is what they have been taught....and they are stupendously stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    James Madison, who was no fool, noted the same problem, but
    unlike Aristotle, he aimed to reduce democracy rather than poverty.
    He believed that the primary goal of government is “to protect the
    minority of the opulent against the majority.” As his colleague John
    Jay was fond of putting it, “T he people who own the country ought
    to govern it.”
    and i'm betting that you have zero idea of why that sentiment existed, am I right?
    In a combat situation it is about 16 times better to do something useful and violent right away than to wait and figure out something even more useful and violent later.
    “whenever you put your faith in big government for any reason, sooner or later you end up an apologist for mass murder.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    and i'm betting that you have zero idea of why that sentiment existed, am I right?
    shut up you stupid moron

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    shut up you stupid moron
    Aristotle opposed democracy. Chomsky wants direct democracy. That means Chomsky wants the people to have the final vote on which bills become law.

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