Originally Posted by
Perry Phimosis
I clearly know more about thermo than the other poster.
Denying the laws of thermodynamics is not 'knowing about thermodynamics', dude. You deny the laws of thermodynamics.
Originally Posted by
Perry Phimosis
Who measures the earth's temperature?
That's what he asked. Now I will ask him to watch how you evade the question.
Originally Posted by
Perry Phimosis
Are you not familiar with Global Warming?
Evasion. Answer the question put to you. It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth. No gas of vapor has the capability to warm the Earth.
Originally Posted by
Perry Phimosis
They use something called a temperature anomaly. It shows CHANGE in temperature without having to have the raw temperature.
Evasion. Base rate fallacy. You cannot measure a change without taking absolute measurements at least twice.
Originally Posted by
Perry Phimosis
Of course you don't seem to know much about this topic in any technical detail.
Complexity fallacy.
Originally Posted by
Perry Phimosis
For some reason the world's experts on this topic disagree with you.
Void authority fallacy. Name your 'experts'. You cannot get away with denying mathematics by claiming 'experts'. 'Expert' worship.
Originally Posted by
Perry Phimosis
Sure everyone knows the sun is the primary energy source, but the earth's surface temperature is NOT solely due to the sun. Without greenhouse gases at all the earth's surface would have near blackbody temperatures.
Buzzword fallacy. There is no such thing as 'blackbody temperatures'. No gas or vapor has the capability to warm the Earth. You cannot create energy out of nothing.
Originally Posted by
Perry Phimosis
But it doesn't. Even if we had a full oxygen/nitrogen atmosphere...without GHG's the temperature would be much lower at the surface.
No gas or vapor has the capability to warm the Earth.
Originally Posted by
Perry Phimosis
The key problem in AGW is NOT the absolute temperature.
You cannot measure a change without at least TWO absolute measurements. It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.
Originally Posted by
Perry Phimosis
The earth's been hotter in the distant past.
It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth. You weren't alive in the distant past and no thermometers existed then.
Originally Posted by
Perry Phimosis
But rather the change in climate as it impacts our society.
Climate cannot change. It has no temperature. It doesn't impact anything. Redefinition fallacy (weather<->climate).
Originally Posted by
Perry Phimosis
Rapid change won't work well for a very large society. We can't adapt fast enough.
Did you know people routinely fly from tropical or temperate areas to the Antarctica and back? They seem to adjust quite well. Did you know that people like to climb mountains? They adjust quite well also. Did you know we have this thing called 'seasons'? People adjust to that throughout the year quite well. Did you know that temperature can vary as much as 80 deg F EACH DAY in some areas? People live in those areas too!
Originally Posted by
Perry Phimosis
The whole problem is one of RATE, not absolutes.
Base rate fallacy.
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