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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    You were not profoundly effected by her death huh
    No and I still did not forget it less than two months later like pResident moron did. .


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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    So they are teaching gender is fluid and gender is a man made concept but they aren't teaching men can have vaginas. This is why you're simpleton.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Because he has been pretty busy



    Have you never had a friend you don’t see much die


    And from time to time forget they have died for a moment?


    Fuck you asshole

    a completely human response
    To busy to remember her death like most humans would.....right
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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Placing this utility UNDERGROUND so that it doesn’t blow away idiot
    You cannot put high voltage / high tension lines underground. The cost is prohibitive and they would pose a serious public danger.



    Anything over 600 VAC is considered high voltage and the dangers involved in working with higher voltages are considerable. So, burying something even as low as say 4500 VAC or 13,800 VAC is a serious engineering and safety problem. It can be done, but it requires a lot more effort to do.

    On top of that, burying electrical conductors--particularly in areas prone to flooding and high water-tables (eg., Florida) require more care due to the presence of moisture or water that can contact and infiltrate the electrical conductors.

    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Building structures to resist these storms

    Building the infrastructure to withstand these storms
    Florida does require buildings to be constructed to withstand hurricanes. But there is a tradeoff between what is required and the costs that make code tend towards the average not the extreme. Ian was an extreme, and even so buildings stood up pretty well to it. It appears that wave action and flooding--akin to a tsunami--was the major cause of structural damage, not wind.

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    https://www.electrocuted.com/2021/10...s-underground/




    Questioning why they aren’t buried below ground

    Many of the legal experts I work with in electrocution lawsuits will examine a given case from a number of different angles and perspectives. Some of these experts look at electrocution lawsuits caused by above ground power lines as akin to product-liability defective-design cases and ask the same question that so many people who inspect and maintain power lines will ask:

    “Given the extremely serious risk of electrocution or shock, why aren’t power lines in the U.S. buried underground?”

    Dangers of keeping power lines above ground

    When utility power lines are above ground, people are exposed to the risk of electrocution and electric shock injury due to downed or faulty power wires and defective equipment. Storms and trees knock down cables and the elements cause deterioration of an already inadequately maintained infrastructure.

    These dangerous conditions are what lead to the deaths and injuries. They also lead to electrocution lawsuits by the families of unsuspecting children, homeowners, utility workers and lineman and construction workers.

    Does the cost of putting them below ground outweigh the public’s safety?

    The main reason that utility companies will not bury power lines underground is cost. Research shows that the price for running a typical overhead power cable is approximately $100,000 per mile and that the price for burying those same wires underground would increase by 10 times or more.

    The North Carolina Utilities Commission concluded that transitioning to underground wires would take 25 years and increase electricity rates by 125%.

    It should be noted, however, as utility company defense lawyers like to point out, that buried power distribution service is not completely feasible in some geographical/geological areas of the U.S., due to conditions such as foreseeable flooding and locations with especially rocky subsoil.

    But the costliness of burying them below ground must be weighed against the clear benefits: There will be far fewer electrical injuries and electrocution deaths if hazards like this are drastically reduced and/or eliminated.

    These are important infrastructure investments that not only help protect a failing and crumbling energy grid, but they are “shovel-ready” projects that will save lives and prevent costly litigation and heart-rending tragedies.

    Burying overhead lines below ground will reduce power outages

    In addition to being safer, the public would also benefit from reduced power outages if power lines were buried underground. Storms – both summer and winter – as well as falling trees and limbs account for 40% of all power outages across the U.S.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    You cannot put high voltage / high tension lines underground. The cost is prohibitive and they would pose a serious public danger.



    Anything over 600 VAC is considered high voltage and the dangers involved in working with higher voltages are considerable. So, burying something even as low as say 4500 VAC or 13,800 VAC is a serious engineering and safety problem. It can be done, but it requires a lot more effort to do.

    On top of that, burying electrical conductors--particularly in areas prone to flooding and high water-tables (eg., Florida) require more care due to the presence of moisture or water that can contact and infiltrate the electrical conductors.



    Florida does require buildings to be constructed to withstand hurricanes. But there is a tradeoff between what is required and the costs that make code tend towards the average not the extreme. Ian was an extreme, and even so buildings stood up pretty well to it. It appears that wave action and flooding--akin to a tsunami--was the major cause of structural damage, not wind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Trump never even cared about a dem who died



    He would never even mention them
    He wouldn't forget them in less than two months either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    https://www.electrocuted.com/2021/10...s-underground/




    Questioning why they aren’t buried below ground

    Many of the legal experts I work with in electrocution lawsuits will examine a given case from a number of different angles and perspectives. Some of these experts look at electrocution lawsuits caused by above ground power lines as akin to product-liability defective-design cases and ask the same question that so many people who inspect and maintain power lines will ask:

    “Given the extremely serious risk of electrocution or shock, why aren’t power lines in the U.S. buried underground?”

    Dangers of keeping power lines above ground

    When utility power lines are above ground, people are exposed to the risk of electrocution and electric shock injury due to downed or faulty power wires and defective equipment. Storms and trees knock down cables and the elements cause deterioration of an already inadequately maintained infrastructure.

    These dangerous conditions are what lead to the deaths and injuries. They also lead to electrocution lawsuits by the families of unsuspecting children, homeowners, utility workers and lineman and construction workers.

    Does the cost of putting them below ground outweigh the public’s safety?

    The main reason that utility companies will not bury power lines underground is cost. Research shows that the price for running a typical overhead power cable is approximately $100,000 per mile and that the price for burying those same wires underground would increase by 10 times or more.

    The North Carolina Utilities Commission concluded that transitioning to underground wires would take 25 years and increase electricity rates by 125%.

    It should be noted, however, as utility company defense lawyers like to point out, that buried power distribution service is not completely feasible in some geographical/geological areas of the U.S., due to conditions such as foreseeable flooding and locations with especially rocky subsoil.

    But the costliness of burying them below ground must be weighed against the clear benefits: There will be far fewer electrical injuries and electrocution deaths if hazards like this are drastically reduced and/or eliminated.

    These are important infrastructure investments that not only help protect a failing and crumbling energy grid, but they are “shovel-ready” projects that will save lives and prevent costly litigation and heart-rending tragedies.

    Burying overhead lines below ground will reduce power outages

    In addition to being safer, the public would also benefit from reduced power outages if power lines were buried underground. Storms – both summer and winter – as well as falling trees and limbs account for 40% of all power outages across the U.S.

    Get help from an experienced electric shock injury lawyer

    If you or someone you love is a victim of serious personal injury or death caused by electricity, you can call and speak with Jeff Feldman, arguably the nation’s most experienced electric shock accident and electrocution attorney. Jeff has litigated electrocution cases and electric shock injury cases in multiple states for laborers in the building industry, against utility companies for people injured by downed or low-hanging overhead power cables, and against hotels and businesses for people electrocuted in pools. Jeff also consults with injury lawyers throughout the country on electric shock injury and wrongful death cases involving electricity. You can call Jeff toll free at (844) 886-9861 for a free consultation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    To busy to remember her death like most humans would.....right
    Sure just lie about actual human behavior asshole

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    https://www.electrocuted.com/2021/10...s-underground/




    Questioning why they aren’t buried below ground

    Many of the legal experts I work with in electrocution lawsuits will examine a given case from a number of different angles and perspectives. Some of these experts look at electrocution lawsuits caused by above ground power lines as akin to product-liability defective-design cases and ask the same question that so many people who inspect and maintain power lines will ask:

    “Given the extremely serious risk of electrocution or shock, why aren’t power lines in the U.S. buried underground?”

    Dangers of keeping power lines above ground

    When utility power lines are above ground, people are exposed to the risk of electrocution and electric shock injury due to downed or faulty power wires and defective equipment. Storms and trees knock down cables and the elements cause deterioration of an already inadequately maintained infrastructure.

    These dangerous conditions are what lead to the deaths and injuries. They also lead to electrocution lawsuits by the families of unsuspecting children, homeowners, utility workers and lineman and construction workers.

    Does the cost of putting them below ground outweigh the public’s safety?

    The main reason that utility companies will not bury power lines underground is cost. Research shows that the price for running a typical overhead power cable is approximately $100,000 per mile and that the price for burying those same wires underground would increase by 10 times or more.

    The North Carolina Utilities Commission concluded that transitioning to underground wires would take 25 years and increase electricity rates by 125%.

    It should be noted, however, as utility company defense lawyers like to point out, that buried power distribution service is not completely feasible in some geographical/geological areas of the U.S., due to conditions such as foreseeable flooding and locations with especially rocky subsoil.

    But the costliness of burying them below ground must be weighed against the clear benefits: There will be far fewer electrical injuries and electrocution deaths if hazards like this are drastically reduced and/or eliminated.

    These are important infrastructure investments that not only help protect a failing and crumbling energy grid, but they are “shovel-ready” projects that will save lives and prevent costly litigation and heart-rending tragedies.

    Burying overhead lines below ground will reduce power outages

    In addition to being safer, the public would also benefit from reduced power outages if power lines were buried underground. Storms – both summer and winter – as well as falling trees and limbs account for 40% of all power outages across the U.S.

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    If you or someone you love is a victim of serious personal injury or death caused by electricity, you can call and speak with Jeff Feldman, arguably the nation’s most experienced electric shock accident and electrocution attorney. Jeff has litigated electrocution cases and electric shock injury cases in multiple states for laborers in the building industry, against utility companies for people injured by downed or low-hanging overhead power cables, and against hotels and businesses for people electrocuted in pools. Jeff also consults with injury lawyers throughout the country on electric shock injury and wrongful death cases involving electricity. You can call Jeff toll free at (844) 886-9861 for a free consultation.

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    So, a liar... err, lawyer... with a liberal arts degree is your response? What voltages of cable was this moron talking about? The real experts know better.

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    To put a high KV cable underground, you have to create what is known as an isophase bus system because there is no way to effectively insulate the cable itself. Instead, you have to create an air gap zone around the cable such that it is isolated from the other phases and anything that could ground it out by distance alone. That gets grotesquely expensive.

    I've done 13,800 VAC installs from the transformer to buildings in industrial settings. That requires NMC conduit with proper depth and separation, special (expensive) conductors that are insulated to that voltage, and lots of work to make happen. It isn't cheap or fast to install it and involves serious digging with a backhoe or excavator. It also requires special precautions as you backfill to ensure no one accidently digs where the conductors are buried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigerred59 View Post


    You have got to love thse cocky bastards boasting about another Trump/GOP victory. As long as you have all the cheating machinism's in place and gov and legislators willing to call foul should they lose, of course you can win....but truth be told, Republicans can't win a damn thing without scaring the hell out of white ppl, lying to Latino's and CHEATING!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Governor DeSatin spent money on "Don't Say Gay laws" and shipping Texas immigrants to Martha's Vineyard.

    Now a million Floridians are out of power, that would have been money better spent hardening the electrical grid for such a situation.

    Shame on him!
    I talked to to my family in Florida, some of whom still remain without power. They seem fine with the situation. They like the law which you deceptively refer to ... and they realize that during the aftermath of acts of nature like a hurricane sometimes you have to spend several days without utilities. They choose to live there knowing the risks of the oft occuring acts of nature. Kind of like me choosing to live in tornado alley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    But our local expert says it can be done!
    They bury cable under the ocean, it can be done, there are always safety risk associated with electricity, but it can be done safely.

    The cost in hurricane prone areas is recovered quickly.

    https://www.fema.gov/case-study/over...ry-power-lines

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