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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    I don't think they fail to do their job. The Budget & Accounting Act (1921) created the system requiring the president to submit an annual budget to consolidate spending and created the OMB to collect and create a unified budget. Previously, each agency submitted its own budget request which made it impossible to control the budget. It is a very complex process and Congress does not have the necessary staff to complete the job.

    They can always make changes in the president's budget and they do, but that defeats the purpose of a unified budget. They hold hearings and the 13(?) appropriations subcommittees each pass the budgets of the various departments and agencies.
    Acts are written by which branch? LOL

    Which brings up another problem such as Citizens United. Congress punting to SCOTUS is another example of them not doing their job. Why? Because they are constantly running for office.

    Like Walmart putting out Christmas stuff in September, House Reps face reelection every two years. That's not working in modern America. We, the People are in sore need of election reform. Part of should consider making Rep terms four years with a four term limit. A three term limit for the Senate is another consideration.

    The bottom line is that Congress isn't doing their fucking job by failing to create and pass for signature acts and bills that serve the best interests of the nation.

    Not an accountant, but spending the nation into bankruptcy isn't in the best interests of the nation. It's only in the best interests of a few.
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by martin View Post
    Rick Scott who isn't a nobody among GOP senators has proposed ending Social Security and Medicare legislation in five years. Ending it. Letting the law for both "sunset" along with other federal legislation.

    Scott further says he doesn't want the end to be permanent, rather that Congress would then pass better Social Security and better Medicare than we now have. You can take it from there depending on your faith.

    https://www.factcheck.org/2022/04/democ ... -medicare/
    What a putz. I'd prefer permanent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    I blame them both, stupid.
    Your mother must be so proud!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Your mother must be so proud!
    She's dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    She's dead.
    So she's not proud of you? Are you an atheist who believes all she ever was is dead?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    So she's not proud of you? Are you an atheist who believes all she ever was is dead?
    Actually I'm a Taoist. We admit we don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    Actually I'm a Taoist. We admit we don't know.
    Pascal had a logical wager on that issue. Siddhārtha Gautama had a similar idea with the Eightfold Path.


    Pascal's was logically laid out:



    FWIW, I doubt God is sitting on a golden throne waiting to follow the orders of whoever wrote the Bible.
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    https://www.learnreligions.com/the-e...ld-path-450067
    The Eightfold Path

    The Eightfold Path is composed of eight primary teachings that Buddhists follow and use in their everyday lives:

    • Right View or Right Understanding: Insight into the true nature of reality
    • Right Intention: The unselfish desire to realize enlightenment
    • Right Speech: Using speech compassionately
    • Right Action: Using ethical conduct to manifest compassion
    • Right Livelihood: Making a living through ethical and nonharmful means
    • Right Effort: Cultivating wholesome qualities and releasing unwholesome qualities
    • Right Mindfulness: Whole body-and-mind awareness
    • Right Concentration: Meditation or some other dedicated, concentrated practice


    The word translated as "right" is samyanc (Sanskrit) or samma (Pali), which means "wise," "wholesome," "skillful," and "ideal." It also describes something that is complete and coherent. The word "right" should not be taken as a commandment, as in "do this, or you are wrong."

    Another way to think of "right" in this case is in the sense of equilibrium, like a boat riding the waves and remaining "right."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Pascal had a logical wager on that issue. Siddhārtha Gautama had a similar idea with the Eightfold Path.


    Pascal's was logically laid out:



    FWIW, I doubt God is sitting on a golden throne waiting to follow the orders of whoever wrote the Bible.
    I always thought the bible was the word of god, therefore I thought he wrote it via ghost writers.

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    Another generalized and somewhat vague proposal from the right wing....given their tract record regarding social service programs, only a fool would take Scott's word on anything regarding this.
    During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

    George Orwell

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    What a putz. I'd prefer permanent.
    First they wanted to put Soc Sec into the hands of private enterprise & Wall St. That was right before the near depression scandals and screw-ups under the Shrub.

    Now the same cast of clowns give vague ideas and promises as to how to replace needed, functional support systems for the average working American.

    Yeah, I trust them like I would trust a monkey to watch my banana cream pie dessert.
    During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

    George Orwell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Acts are written by which branch? LOL

    Which brings up another problem such as Citizens United. Congress punting to SCOTUS is another example of them not doing their job. Why? Because they are constantly running for office.

    Like Walmart putting out Christmas stuff in September, House Reps face reelection every two years. That's not working in modern America. We, the People are in sore need of election reform. Part of should consider making Rep terms four years with a four term limit. A three term limit for the Senate is another consideration.

    The bottom line is that Congress isn't doing their fucking job by failing to create and pass for signature acts and bills that serve the best interests of the nation.

    Not an accountant, but spending the nation into bankruptcy isn't in the best interests of the nation. It's only in the best interests of a few.
    Congress and the executive. Congress has to pass laws but much of the major legislation is initiated, written, and proposed by the executive. The public now expects the president to propose legislation to solve our problems compared to earlier U. S. history when presidents waited for Congress to pass legislation and then they would administer it.

    I will modify my previous comments about Congress not doing their job to criticize them for not having a budget passed by October 1 for many years. They just pass continuing resolutions while working on the different spending bills.

    What does Congress punt to the Supreme Court?

    Passing laws that serve the "best interests" of the nation differ substantially among different groups as to what they consider the "best interests."

    Four-year terms might not be a bad idea.

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    Marty, isn’t it about time for you to post the “pushing grandma off the cliff in a wheelchair...” poor Marty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    I always thought the bible was the word of god, therefore I thought he wrote it via ghost writers.
    Seriously? Today we call those people paranoid schizophrenics. LOL

    More seriously, like Aesop, Moses simply wrote down ancient stories. The Bible itself was edited from hundreds of ancient writings to tell the story of the new Catholic Church over three centuries after Jesus.

    Again, like Aesop, I think the stories have great lessons to be learned, but I do not take them as the direct word of God. Is there any doubt that God doesn't need a flawed instrument like man to tell a specific tale? God could have imprinted anything desired upon our DNA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Congress and the executive. Congress has to pass laws but much of the major legislation is initiated, written, and proposed by the executive. The public now expects the president to propose legislation to solve our problems compared to earlier U. S. history when presidents waited for Congress to pass legislation and then they would administer it.

    I will modify my previous comments about Congress not doing their job to criticize them for not having a budget passed by October 1 for many years. They just pass continuing resolutions while working on the different spending bills.

    What does Congress punt to the Supreme Court?

    Passing laws that serve the "best interests" of the nation differ substantially among different groups as to what they consider the "best interests."

    Four-year terms might not be a bad idea.
    Office holders are bound by the Constitution and their oath to serve it. Sure, the reality is that they can be swayed by public opinion, but regardless of what they say or do, they are still bound by their oath and official duties.

    Trump not only failed in his duties, he abused them. Republican Senators and Representatives who support those violations and abuse are also guilty.
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

    "Hatred is a failure of imagination" - Graham Greene, "The Power and the Glory"

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