GOP Senator Proposes "Temporary" End to Social Security and Medicare

[cawacko]

Good luck with that shit. Why does it need to be "better"? It's fine as it is, which of course is what he hates.

I can't speak to the specifics of Scott's plan but to the idea of why it needs to be better is because the system isn't sustainable. Current benefit levels will be cut in the future if the system stays on its current path (to one who's older they may not give a sh*t, fair enough, but for the longevity of the program something has to be done).

[Geeko Sportivo]

Rick Scott who isn't a nobody among GOP senators has proposed ending Social Security and Medicare legislation in five years. Ending it. Letting the law for both "sunset" along with other federal legislation.

Scott further says he doesn't want the end to be permanent, rather that Congress would then pass better Social Security and better Medicare than we now have. You can take it from there depending on your faith.

https://www.factcheck.org/2022/04/democ ... -medicare/

Wouldn't it be simpler to just do away with RICK SCOTT!

[ThatOwlWoman]

Earl is like every other trained seal in the Republican zoo, ready when asked to give his vote to politicians who would take away his lifeline. Liberals like me on the other hand, for whom SS is no guarantee in our futures, are
more willing to support Earl's lifeline than he is.

True. pEarl is a perfect example of the morons who vote against their own best interests in order to fuck over someone else -- like the imaginary elitist retired "libtards" -- who they stupidly believe are milking the system. *sigh*

[ThatOwlWoman]

Marty, that was ugly. Take it back.

“Take away his lifeline.”

Marty, I am retired and draw not one cent in SS. My esposa does but I don’t.

Trained seals (in the far left Democrat Socialist zoo) would describe trying to improve SS and Medicare as “taking away his lifeline.”

You trained seals roll out the same old “ending SS and Medicare” lie every election cycle.

Also, Republicans pushing old women in wheelchairs off cliffs.

Poor Marty.

So how, exactly, would you "improve" Medicare and Social Security, pEarl? Means-testing? Doesn't that tend to punish those who have worked hard and invested/saved for their future retirement? You claim to be a retired veteran; should we "improve" your retirement plan and VA benefits while we're at it? After all, you and your million comrades are collecting taxpayer bucks too. Why aren't you interested in "improving" your benefits?

[ThatOwlWoman]

I can't speak to the specifics of Scott's plan but to the idea of why it needs to be better is because the system isn't sustainable. Current benefit levels will be cut in the future if the system stays on its current path (to one who's older they may not give a sh*t, fair enough, but for the longevity of the program something has to be done).

Easy fix: Take the cap off earnings. Problem solved.

[Concart]

Earl, if something goes wrong with SS or Medicare it will not go over good for the Scumlican.

The statement 'Social Security goes bankrupt in 12 years' is a bald faced lie. No surprise that Earl repeats it without understanding it in any way shape or form.

[Earl]

So how, exactly, would you "improve" Medicare and Social Security, pEarl? Means-testing? Doesn't that tend to punish those who have worked hard and invested/saved for their future retirement? You claim to be a retired veteran; should we "improve" your retirement plan and VA benefits while we're at it? After all, you and your million comrades are collecting taxpayer bucks too. Why aren't you interested in "improving" your benefits?

I AM a veteran and retired but I am retired from the FAA, not the military. It was voluntary to work there and pay into Civil Service. I paid into Civil Service retirement for 30 years.

My solution to S.S. is to keep those who are paying and those who are receiving S.S. in the program but make it optional for those after a cutoff date in the legislation that would be required.

Since F.D.R. forced that Socialist program on the American people, the average return is 1-3%.

Those who die before 65 (or the eligible date) get zero return on their investment.

[cawacko]

Easy fix: Take the cap off earnings. Problem solved.

If it's that easy why haven't we done it?

I'll offer an answer, because entitlements don't exist in a vacuum. How many other needs are there in society that we've proposed to raise taxes on to fund? We can only raise taxes so high. There's not an unlimited amount of money available.

[Phantasmal]

Easy fix: Take the cap off earnings. Problem solved.

Suspending SS, what a nightmare! They’d fix SS just like they did healthcare and infrastructure

[Earl]

Suspending SS, what a nightmare! They’d fix SS just like they did healthcare and infrastructure

Since F.D.R. forced that Socialist program on the American people, the average return is 1-3%.

Those who die before 65 (or the eligible date) get zero return on their investment.

[Phantasmal]

The statement 'Social Security goes bankrupt in 12 years' is a bald faced lie. No surprise that Earl repeats it without understanding it in any way shape or form.

They’ve been saying this since the 70‘s. They gave it 50 years back then.

[Concart]

They’ve been saying this since the 70‘s. They gave it 50 years back then.

The fact is that the social security trustee must issue a report every year, and that report completely obliterates the lie.

[LurchAddams]

Rick Scott who isn't a nobody among GOP senators has proposed ending Social Security and Medicare legislation in five years. Ending it. Letting the law for both "sunset" along with other federal legislation.

Scott further says he doesn't want the end to be permanent, rather that Congress would then pass better Social Security and better Medicare than we now have. You can take it from there depending on your faith.

https://www.factcheck.org/2022/04/democ ... -medicare/

Yeah, ending entitlements will be really popular in his home state of Florida where the mean age is 100

[Trumpet]

The statement 'Social Security goes bankrupt in 12 years' is a bald faced lie. No surprise that Earl repeats it without understanding it in any way shape or form.

Earl, should also remember that he depends on SS and Medicare for sustenance.

[martin]

If it's that easy why haven't we done it?

I'll offer an answer, because entitlements don't exist in a vacuum. How many other needs are there in society that we've proposed to raise taxes on to fund? We can only raise taxes so high. There's not an unlimited amount of money available.

The trouble is not that it isn't easy. It's as easy as raising your hand or saying, "yes". We haven't done it because moneyed interests haven't wanted to do it. True, we can only raise taxes so high. They once were higher on
well to do taxpayers than now. Much higher.