Mass shooting in California

[Cypress]

Wyoming? ... NOT as WHITE as Vermont.

Don't White libs support "assisted suicide"?

Just because White libs call drug overdoses "accidental" doesn't mean they aren't suicides.

Stop being dishonest. Most gun homicides are democrats shooting other democrats, and you know it, racist pig.

You all spent message board careers hollering at us that conservatives were happier and more well adjusted than liberals .

But now you are strutting around the board arguing that red states are more depressed and suicidal.

[archives]

Lot of good those strict gun laws do...

6 people shot in Oakland, at a school no less.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...says-rcna49901

Why is it so difficult for gun lovers to understand one can easily import guns from gun loving States into gun restricted States? In facf, an aspiring entrepreneur with a car trunk can make a quick buck. Plus, overall, California’s gun homicide rates are well below the majority of States with lose gun laws.

The overwhelming majority of guns in Chicago, the city the right loves to scapegoat, come from outside the city of Chicago, a good percentage from Indiana, a gun loving State and only a twenty minute car ride away. New York, one of the safest cities in America, traces over seventy percent of guns arriving via the “iron pipeline” from the Southern gun states

[Bigdog]

You all spent message board careers hollering at us that conservatives were happier and more well adjusted than liberals .

But now you are strutting around the board arguing that red states are more depressed and suicidal.

There is no doubt that they are. White libs are in a constant state of outrage and misery. Wyoming has 600k people. Farmers have a very high suicide rate because when they get old and start to lose their independence, they don't want to be leeches on society.

Top 11 States for gun homicide deaths

Georgia
10.5
1,093
New Mexico
10.8
216
Illinois
11.2
1,353
Maryland
11.4
649
Tennessee
11.5
753
South Carolina
12.7
622
Arkansas
13
371
Missouri
14
803
Alabama
14.2
654
Louisiana
19.9
873
Mississippi
20.5
576

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/s...y/homicide.htm

[Bigdog]

Why is it so difficult for gun lovers to understand one can easily import guns from gun loving States into gun restricted States? In facf, an aspiring entrepreneur with a car trunk can make a quick buck. Plus, overall, California’s gun homicide rates are well below the majority of States with lose gun laws.

The overwhelming majority of guns in Chicago, the city the right loves to scapegoat, come from outside the city of Chicago, a good percentage from Indiana, a gun loving State and only a twenty minute car ride away. New York, one of the safest cities in America, traces over seventy percent of guns arriving via the “iron pipeline” from the Southern gun states

And that's your excuse for banning law abiding Blacks from legally owning firearms? ... sorry, don't buy it, racist pig.

[Cypress]

California has a relatively low gun mortality rate of 8.5 deaths per 100k.

These are gun mortality rates for redneck states:

Wyoming, 25.9 gun deaths per 100k.
Oklahoma, 20.9 deaths per 100k.
Missouri, 23.9 deaths per 100k.
Mississippi, 28.6 deaths per 100k.
Tennessee, 21.6 deaths per 100k.
Texas, 14.2 deaths per 100k.

^^ That compares to a gun mortality rate in California of 8.5 deaths and in Massachusetts of 3.7 deaths per 100k

New York has a gun mortality death rate of 5.3 deaths per 100k.

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...69#post5303369

"California's Approach to Gun Violence Could Be a Model for the Nation"

JULY 18, 2022
Gun violence in the U.S. is currently a public health crisis.

In 2020, the most recent year that data is available, more than 45,000 people died from gun-related injuries, according to the Pew Research Center; that’s a 14% increase from the previous year, 25% increase from five years ago, and a 43% increase from a decade ago.

As numbers climb nationwide, California has a completely opposite trend.

For more than 20 years—except for two years during the pandemic—the Golden State’s rate of firearm violence has consistently decreased. California has one of the lowest firearm mortality rates in the country. Its residents are less likely to die from a gunshot than almost anywhere else in the country, and are 25% less likely to die in a mass shooting.

https://time.com/6197797/california-gun-laws-lessons/

[archives]

And that's your excuse for banning law abiding Blacks from legally owning firearms? ... sorry, don't buy it, racist pig.

If a person meets the State requirements for gun ownership, no one is banned, Black, White, or anyone else, not that your comment had anything to do with my post

[Cypress]

There is no doubt that they are. White libs are in a constant state of outrage and misery. Wyoming has 600k people. Farmers have a very high suicide rate because when they get old and start to lose their independence, they don't want to be leeches on society.

Top 11 States for gun homicide deaths

Georgia
10.5
1,093
New Mexico
10.8
216
Illinois
11.2
1,353
Maryland
11.4
649
Tennessee
11.5
753
South Carolina
12.7
622
Arkansas
13
371
Missouri
14
803
Alabama
14.2
654
Louisiana
19.9
873
Mississippi
20.5
576

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/s...y/homicide.htm

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Wow look at all those conservative Red states. 73 percent of those states are Red states.

Why did you cut it off at eleven? That's a weird place to draw the line

[T. A. Gardner]

You neglected to mention that right wing states of Texas and Arizona with lax gun laws are close by, and this gunman could have easily got his guns there.

Texas is halfway across the US from California. Driving there--you couldn't fly and bring a gun back--would take several days on the road. Arizona is a day + drive from the Bay area. If you maintain about 80 - 85 mph you can do it in about 14 to 15 hours. To get to a gun store that's worthwhile, tack on another 2 to 4.

[T. A. Gardner]

California has a relatively low gun mortality rate of 8.5 deaths per 100k.

These are gun mortality rates for redneck states:

Wyoming, 25.9 gun deaths per 100k.
Oklahoma, 20.9 deaths per 100k.
Missouri, 23.9 deaths per 100k.
Mississippi, 28.6 deaths per 100k.
Tennessee, 21.6 deaths per 100k.
Texas, 14.2 deaths per 100k.

^^ That compares to a gun mortality rate in California of 8.5 deaths and in Massachusetts of 3.7 deaths per 100k

New York has a gun mortality death rate of 5.3 deaths per 100k.

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...69#post5303369

Irrelevant to the topic at hand. Your rebuttal amounts to a red herring.

[Bigdog]

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Wow look at all those conservative Red states. 73 percent of those states are Red states.

Why did you cut it off at eleven? That's a weird place to draw the line

The diverse African American States that White libs hate.

[T. A. Gardner]

Why is it so difficult for gun lovers to understand one can easily import guns from gun loving States into gun restricted States? In facf, an aspiring entrepreneur with a car trunk can make a quick buck. Plus, overall, California’s gun homicide rates are well below the majority of States with lose gun laws.

The overwhelming majority of guns in Chicago, the city the right loves to scapegoat, come from outside the city of Chicago, a good percentage from Indiana, a gun loving State and only a twenty minute car ride away. New York, one of the safest cities in America, traces over seventy percent of guns arriving via the “iron pipeline” from the Southern gun states

Another red herring. The topic at hand isn't where the gun came from, but that it was used in California--a state with strict gun control laws--in a mass shooting. What this shows is that those strict gun laws don't prevent or stop such an occurrence from happening. That is, because for the most part those laws are only obeyed by the lawful. A criminal doesn't give a shit about gun laws.

[Cypress]

The diverse African American States.

You provided a list proving that gun homicides tend to be higher in conservative states, and then blame black people.

Maybe those states should elect different state governments

[LV426]

Lot of good those strict gun laws do...

6 people shot in Oakland, at a school no less.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...says-rcna49901

Where'd they get the gun?

[LV426]

Another red herring. The topic at hand isn't where the gun came from, but that it was used in California

Right, so it was bought somewhere else and brought into CA to commit a crime.

So how is that the fault of CA's gun laws?

Wouldn't it be the fault of wherever this person got the gun?

[T. A. Gardner]

Right, so it was bought somewhere else and brought into CA to commit a crime.

So how is that the fault of CA's gun laws?

Wouldn't it be the fault of wherever this person got the gun?

I don't know if it was or not. Do you have a source that says it was?

Update. I looked at several articles on this. The shooter(s) has not been apprehended so we don't know where the gun came from. It is also the latest in a string of shootings and firearm incidents at that school, the last being on August 29th involving a 13-year-old with a gun...