Former Pentagon Advisor Says US Likely Attacked Nord Stream to Isolate Germany

[McRocket]

'A former Pentagon advisor says the most likely culprits behind the Nord Stream pipeline blasts are the United States and Britain, and that the attack was carried out to prevent Germany from bailing on the war in Ukraine.

Retired US Army colonel Douglas Macgregor made the comments during an appearance on the Judging Freedom podcast.

Macgregor said a process of elimination rules out Germany, because they are dependent on Nord Stream for their energy security, while it also served no benefit for Russia to have sabotaged its own infrastructure.

“Would the Russians destroy their own pipeline? 40 percent of Russian gross national product or gross domestic product consists of foreign currency that comes into the country to purchase natural gas, oil, coal and so forth. So the Russians did not do this. The notion that they did I think is absurd,” Macgregor said.'

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'However, citing reports that more than 500 kg of TNT had been detected in both explosions, the former Pentagon advisor suggested only the United States and British Royal Navy had the capability to pull off the attack.

“Then you have to look at who are the state actors that have the capability to do this. And that means the Royal Navy, the United States Navy Special Operations,” said Macgregor.

“I think that’s pretty clear. We know that thousands of pounds of TNT were used because these pipelines are enormously robust. You have several inches of concrete around various metal alloys to move the natural gas. So it’s not something that you could simply drop a grenade down at the end of a fish line and disrupt. That means it takes a certain amount of sophistication,” he added.

Macgregor suggested that the motive behind the attacks was to prevent Germany from bailing on the Ukraine war after Berlin began “to give the impression that they were no longer going to go along with this proxy war in Ukraine.”'

https://summit.news/2022/10/03/forme...olate-germany/

[Hawkeye10]

That the US did it certainly seems more likely than that the Russians did...I said this at the jump. I dont know how it will ever be proven, if it can be proven, but if it is then the Chinese will make a lot of hay over this, one of their main arguments is that America treats our allies like shit.

[Hawkeye10]

Also Tuckers "But what about global warming?" when released methane it is said is very bad for the planet. So America decided to release all of that methane on purpose?

[Poor Richard Saunders]

'A former Pentagon advisor says the most likely culprits behind the Nord Stream pipeline blasts are the United States and Britain, and that the attack was carried out to prevent Germany from bailing on the war in Ukraine.

Retired US Army colonel Douglas Macgregor made the comments during an appearance on the Judging Freedom podcast.

Macgregor said a process of elimination rules out Germany, because they are dependent on Nord Stream for their energy security, while it also served no benefit for Russia to have sabotaged its own infrastructure.

“Would the Russians destroy their own pipeline? 40 percent of Russian gross national product or gross domestic product consists of foreign currency that comes into the country to purchase natural gas, oil, coal and so forth. So the Russians did not do this. The notion that they did I think is absurd,” Macgregor said.'

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'However, citing reports that more than 500 kg of TNT had been detected in both explosions, the former Pentagon advisor suggested only the United States and British Royal Navy had the capability to pull off the attack.

“Then you have to look at who are the state actors that have the capability to do this. And that means the Royal Navy, the United States Navy Special Operations,” said Macgregor.

“I think that’s pretty clear. We know that thousands of pounds of TNT were used because these pipelines are enormously robust. You have several inches of concrete around various metal alloys to move the natural gas. So it’s not something that you could simply drop a grenade down at the end of a fish line and disrupt. That means it takes a certain amount of sophistication,” he added.

Macgregor suggested that the motive behind the attacks was to prevent Germany from bailing on the Ukraine war after Berlin began “to give the impression that they were no longer going to go along with this proxy war in Ukraine.”'

https://summit.news/2022/10/03/forme...olate-germany/

Is that the same Macgregor that was appointed by Trump to to advise his acting defense secretary after he fired the other one for not supporting his coup?
The same Macgregor that has been on RT?
The same Macgregor that went on Fox in support of Putin's invasion?
The same Macgregor that Liz Cheney said is part of the Putin wing of the Republican party?


I would take his claim that only the US can do this with a grain of salt, or maybe a block of salt would be better.

[Hawkeye10]

If we did it I think it almost had to be the CIA.

[PostmodernProphet]

why would Biden do Russia a favor like that?.....

[Hawkeye10]

why would Biden do Russia a favor like that?.....

The American regime is ignorant and reckless and are brutes.

[Lionfish]

'A former Pentagon advisor says the most likely culprits behind the Nord Stream pipeline blasts are the United States and Britain, and that the attack was carried out to prevent Germany from bailing on the war in Ukraine.

Retired US Army colonel Douglas Macgregor made the comments during an appearance on the Judging Freedom podcast.

Macgregor said a process of elimination rules out Germany, because they are dependent on Nord Stream for their energy security, while it also served no benefit for Russia to have sabotaged its own infrastructure.

“Would the Russians destroy their own pipeline? 40 percent of Russian gross national product or gross domestic product consists of foreign currency that comes into the country to purchase natural gas, oil, coal and so forth. So the Russians did not do this. The notion that they did I think is absurd,” Macgregor said.'

...

'However, citing reports that more than 500 kg of TNT had been detected in both explosions, the former Pentagon advisor suggested only the United States and British Royal Navy had the capability to pull off the attack.

“Then you have to look at who are the state actors that have the capability to do this. And that means the Royal Navy, the United States Navy Special Operations,” said Macgregor.

“I think that’s pretty clear. We know that thousands of pounds of TNT were used because these pipelines are enormously robust. You have several inches of concrete around various metal alloys to move the natural gas. So it’s not something that you could simply drop a grenade down at the end of a fish line and disrupt. That means it takes a certain amount of sophistication,” he added.

Macgregor suggested that the motive behind the attacks was to prevent Germany from bailing on the Ukraine war after Berlin began “to give the impression that they were no longer going to go along with this proxy war in Ukraine.”'

https://summit.news/2022/10/03/forme...olate-germany/

Germany isolated themselves with ill informed., very short-sighted, energy decisions. They should have listened to President Trump.

[McRocket]

Is that the same Macgregor that was appointed by Trump to to advise his acting defense secretary after he fired the other one for not supporting his coup?
The same Macgregor that has been on RT?
The same Macgregor that went on Fox in support of Putin's invasion?
The same Macgregor that Liz Cheney said is part of the Putin wing of the Republican party?


I would take his claim that only the US can do this with a grain of salt, or maybe a block of salt would be better.

Perhaps you could provide us with a link that factually proves that what he is saying is actually/technically erroneous?

I am guessing...you cannot.
Which would make your opinion - on this - worthless.

I am not saying he is right or wrong.
But it certainly makes MILES more sense that America/Britain would have done it?
Rather then Russia...blowing up their own pipeline.

[Doc Dutch]

[I]'A former Pentagon advisor says the most likely culprits behind the Nord Stream pipeline blasts are the United States and Britain, and that the attack was carried out to prevent Germany from bailing on the war in Ukraine.

Retired US Army colonel Douglas Macgregor made the comments during an appearance on the Judging Freedom podcast....

Figures Trumpers spread lies about the United States.

https://www.theamericanconservative....thor/doug-mac/

Douglas Macgregor
Douglas Macgregor, Col. (ret.) is a senior fellow with The American Conservative, the former advisor to the Secretary of Defense in the Trump administration, a decorated combat veteran, and the author of five books.

[Doc Dutch]

Perhaps you could provide us with a link that factually proves that what he is saying is actually/technically erroneous?
I am guessing...you cannot.

I am not saying he is right or wrong.
But it certainly makes MILES more sense that America/Britain would have done it?
Rather then Russia...blowing up their own pipeline.

Figures Trumpers love to hate the USA.

No, son, it doesn't make sense. It's their pipeline. Blowing up the pipeline of another country is an act of war, dumbass.


Next you'll be blaming the US for threatening to use nukes in Ukraine.

[Hawkeye10]

As I have said before if America did this it was intended to show solidarity with UKraine, who have long demanded that Europe use no Russian energy. The Europeans have been slow to comply with the demand.

[McRocket]

US President Joe Biden could not have been clearer when, in early February, he promised to bring Nord Stream ‘to an end’ should Russian troops and tanks enter Ukraine

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...a-America.html

[McRocket]

U.S. Blew Up Russian Gas Pipelines Nord Stream 1 & 2, Says Former Polish Defense Minister

'A former Polish Defense Minister, Radek Sikorski, has attributed to the United States the sabotage of two pipelines, Nord Stream 1 and 2, which carry natural gas from Russia to Germany. “Thank you, USA,” Sikorski wrote on Twitter. Sikorski was Minister of National Defense from 2005 – 2007 and served as Deputy Minister of National Defense and Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs, previously. He is currently an elected member of the European parliament.

Nord Stream 1 and 2 lie on the bed of the Baltic Sea. Nord Stream 2 was finished last year but Germany never opened it because Russia invaded Ukraine on February 24.'

https://www.theburningplatform.com/2...ense-minister/

[goat]

I'm not following this. Why would disrupting Germany's gas supply stop them "bailing" on the war?

Germany assumed the US war on cheap Russian gas would blow over and they could continue with free trade. Biden was ordered to put an end to free trade.