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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    FWIW, the areas losing the most population within the state are SF and LA.
    COMPLETELY FUCKING UNTRUE.

    SF has gained 100,000 people between 2011-2020.

    LA has gained 200,000 people between 2011-2020.

    Here's a link that details the population shifts at a county level, and you will see that exactly ZERO of the counties that lost population between 2010-2022 were LA, SF or adjacent.

    So because I know you didn't come up with that nonsense on your own, I can confidently say that you got conned because you got told something you wanted to hear, that validated your inherent flaws and biases.

    Literally anyone can check the population on Google and see that LA and SF have gained people since 2010.

    So what is your fucking excuse?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Now you're moving the bar so low that it's resting on the floor.

    Intellectual dishonesty...sophistry...that's what you're doing now because it's all you have left.




    This is another "apples and oranges are the same thing because they're both fruit" example of sophistry.

    Flash, making that claim isn't staking a position on anything if you refuse to get into the details.

    As it stands, you still don't know for sure who left CA and from where they left.

    And if all those supposedly high paying, high tech, high skill jobs left, how come San Francisco's median income has only grown?

    How come the median income in San Jose has also grown?

    If all those people left, wouldn't that bring DOWN the median income of those cities? But their median incomes increased.

    So...maybe those tech workers who left were replaced with better tech workers who get paid more.
    That's an easy one. The state, along with local government, has been forcing the minimum wage up dramatically. What is happening is the bottom is rising while the middle class, as usual when the Left runs things, is being crushed.



    So, the result is that the undeserving are getting more while the productive are getting fucked. That's how Socialism usually works. At some point, the productive either stop producing because it's a waste of their time, or they leave and go somewhere where their efforts are appreciated.

    By the way, Chevron just moved their corporate headquarters out of California to Texas...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    Yeah that is the reason people are moving from California to the paradise of Texas.
    OK, same question to you:

    From where in CA are they leaving?

    Not LA, SF, SD, SJ...they're leaving the shitty, garbage red counties: https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-counties/states/ca

    Every CA county that lost population between 2010-2022 are red counties, none of them are in LA, SF, SD, SJ.

    Even Sacramento gained population over that period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    That's an easy one. The state, along with local government, has been forcing the minimum wage up dramatically. What is happening is the bottom is rising while the middle class, as usual when the Left runs things, is being crushed.



    So, the result is that the undeserving are getting more while the productive are getting fucked. That's how Socialism usually works. At some point, the productive either stop producing because it's a waste of their time, or they leave and go somewhere where their efforts are appreciated.

    By the way, Chevron just moved their corporate headquarters out of California to Texas...
    FWIW, they aren't moving their HQ's to Texas. They sold their HQ building in San Ramon and are moving their HQ next door to Bishop Ranch. They are increasing the number of workers in Texas however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    That's an easy one. The state, along with local government, has been forcing the minimum wage up dramatically.
    Dramatically? To what?


    That's how Socialism usually works.
    That is not socialism at all.

    Socialism would be CA seizing the means of production for something like, say, oil or natural gas, putting them under public ownership.

    Raising the MW isn't socialism, it's capitalism.


    At some point, the productive either stop producing because it's a waste of their time, or they leave and go somewhere where their efforts are appreciated.
    "The productive"?

    Who do you mean?


    By the way, Chevron just moved their corporate headquarters out of California to Texas...
    Well, good luck to them...I hear Texas has a lot of energy problems if it gets a little chilly or a little warm or a little wet...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    OK, same question to you:

    From where in CA are they leaving?

    Not LA, SF, SD, SJ...they're leaving the shitty, garbage red counties: https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-counties/states/ca

    Every CA county that lost population between 2010-2022 are red counties, none of them are in LA, SF, SD, SJ.

    Even Sacramento gained population over that period.
    Well, Chevron is moving from San Ramon CA to Houston. They're taking about 6,000 jobs with them--most employees are moving to keep their jobs. That will leave less than 2000 in a much smaller field office in California that Chevron expects to continue to shrink.

    Chevron sells global headquarters, pares back in California amid Texas expansion
    https://www.foxbusiness.com/energy/c...exas-expansion

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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Well you should because that is a reflection of their choice.
    It is only better for elitist snobs who think picking one state over another is a basis on which to judge people. I guess it shows your poor judgment because you live in a red state.

    Maybe it is choice because that is where their job is located or a climate required for their health or a lower cost of living in retirement.

    In a world that hates people because of race, religion, nationality, we need another superficial factor such as red or blue state. These are obviously factors more important to some than red or blue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Well, Chevron is moving from San Ramon CA to Houston.
    Ummm...you should probably check your facts here because they didn't relocate their Corporate HQ to Texas, they relocated it literally right next door in CA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    It is only better for elitist snobs who think picking one state over another is a basis on which to judge people.
    Flash, shut the fuck up, you judge people all the fucking time.

    Give it a goddamn rest with this self-righteous bullshit.

    You are one of the most judgmental people on JPP.

    Get a grip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Ummm...except that you do really care because it's all you've been running your big mouth about all afternoon.

    Saying CA lost population to TX is telling but a fraction of the story.

    I know how afraid you get when I get into the details because the details almost always back up what I've been saying, while we have to rely on your word for things.
    Your "details" never have anything to do with the real issue. You only bring up irrelevant details when your claims are proven wrong. Listing CA cities that gained population was a poor effort to prove CA was not losing population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Maybe it is choice because that is where their job is located or a climate required for their health or a lower cost of living in retirement
    You need to go back in this thread and really read what I've written because I've already addressed all this shit with Dutch, and catching you up is just an exercise I constantly find myself doing and getting nothing in return for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    In a world that hates people because of race, religion, nationality, we need another superficial factor such as red or blue state. These are obviously factors more important to some than red or blue.
    So this feels like a retreat...it feels like you conceded the point that those CA cities didn't lose really anyone, so you're shifting tactics now and trying to make things personal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Your "details" never have anything to do with the real issue.
    LMAO!

    Details about CA's population have nothing to do with CA's population??

    WHAT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Dramatically? To what?

    That is not socialism at all.

    Socialism would be CA seizing the means of production for something like, say, oil or natural gas, putting them under public ownership.

    Raising the MW isn't socialism, it's capitalism.

    "The productive"?

    Who do you mean?

    Well, good luck to them...I hear Texas has a lot of energy problems if it gets a little chilly or a little warm or a little wet...
    The whole concept of a minimum wage is Socialist. Continually raising it is just a means for a Socialist government using Statist Capitalism to force employers to pay for that Socialism

    The ‘equitable wage’ concept, which was further enshrined in a progress report from 1997, is closely related to the ‘living wage’ idea that has become popular in North America in recent years. Its meaning is simple: every worker should get paid based on his living expenses, not the value he adds to his employer.

    Normally, the welfare state would be responsible for guaranteeing a person’s minimum standard of living. With a ‘living wage’ regulation, government outsources the responsibility for that guarantee directly to the private sector. Depending on how radically the ‘living wage’ advocates define the costs of living that define that wage, mandatory entry-level wages can become quite high.
    https://europeanconservative.com/art...ory-socialism/

    Democratic socialist congressional candidate says $15 minimum wage is 'antiquated': '$30 is the floor'
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/was...0-minimum-wage

    What happens is a high minimum wage means that low productivity workers are getting paid more than they are worth or produce. That forces businesses that cannot meet that wage out of the market. The government might prop up such businesses with subsidies if those businesses are still necessary. For higher productivity workers they can feel their work is no longer appreciated because their pay is close to or the same as that of low productivity workers. Why work hard for a wage just over minimum when you can do little or nothing and still get just as much pay?

    The whole idea is Socialist. It tries to argue that such wage plans are "fair and equal" ignoring the variance in effort and skill put forward by workers. In essence, it is saying that all work is equal regardless of effort or skill needed to do it. It's the typical fool's errand that Socialism makes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Exactly...like by moving the goalposts so far back that they're meaningless by saying "CA lost population to Texas" without bothering to go into any detail.

    I think the reason you didn't go into detail and are resisting going into detail is because the detail is going to show that the people leaving CA are leaving shitty old Mariposa county, not LA county.
    What county they came from in CA is not a "detail" relevant to the fact that CA lost population, especially to TX. It shows how you denigrate people based on their state, county, or other superficial trait.

    LV426: "CA did not really lose population because the ones who moved were from Mariposa County"

    You want to get rid of those poor minorities because they prove CA has the country's highest poverty rate when cost of living is computed (Census Bureau). It also proves who is hurt most by CA policies.

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