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    Default EU sees sabotage of Nord Stream, warns against attacks on 'active infrastructure'

    BRUSSELS, Sept 27 (Reuters) - European Commission chief Ursula von der Leyen on Tuesday said the leaks of the Nord Stream pipelines were caused by sabotage, and warned of the "strongest possible response" should active European energy infrastructure be attacked.

    "Spoke to (Danish Prime Minister Mette) Frederiksen on the sabotage action Nordstream," von der Leyen said on Twitter, adding it was paramount now to investigate the incidents to get full clarity on the "events and why."

    "Any deliberate disruption of active European energy infrastructure is unacceptable and will lead to the strongest possible response," she warned.

    https://www.reuters.com/business/ene...re-2022-09-27/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primavera View Post
    BRUSSELS, Sept 27 (Reuters) - European Commission chief Ursula von der Leyen on Tuesday said the leaks of the Nord Stream pipelines were caused by sabotage, and warned of the "strongest possible response" should active European energy infrastructure be attacked.

    "Spoke to (Danish Prime Minister Mette) Frederiksen on the sabotage action Nordstream," von der Leyen said on Twitter, adding it was paramount now to investigate the incidents to get full clarity on the "events and why."

    "Any deliberate disruption of active European energy infrastructure is unacceptable and will lead to the strongest possible response," she warned.

    https://www.reuters.com/business/ene...re-2022-09-27/
    Even if the Ukrainians do it?

    Call me skeptical.
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    Nord Stream leak is in 'diveable' zone and Russia has underwater drones, says expert

    Sweden has begun a preliminary investigation into potential sabotage of the Nord Stream infrastructure.
    The location of the Nord Stream leak is “diveable”, according to an expert, who also highlighted that Russia has underwater drones. Russia and European nations spent billions of dollars constructing the pipelines.

    Moscow is still earning from the infrastructure, and is likely hoping to increase profits when its “special military operation” in Ukraine comes to an end.

    But a Ukrainian official, quoted by Reuters, has called the incident a Russian attack to destabilise Europe, without elaborating or supplying proof.

    Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki also said: “We see clearly it's an act of sabotage, related to the next step of escalation of the situation in Ukraine.”

    Russia has itself claimed sabotage remains a possibility, accepting the likelihood of disruption in Europe.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...-drones-expert

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    who stands to gain from this ?

    russia can just shut off the spigot so why cause damage they have to fix ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    who stands to gain from this ?

    russia can just shut off the spigot so why cause damage they have to fix ?
    Ukraine has long demanded that Europe buy no Russian energy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    Ukraine has long demanded that Europe buy no Russian energy.
    yeah. The US and UKR are the only ones I see though you could make a case for China.
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    Tuckers Lead.

    If America did this the next logical step is for the Russians to blow up American LNG terminals.
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    Wars tend to spread, dont forget that part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    who stands to gain from this ?

    russia can just shut off the spigot so why cause damage they have to fix ?
    It could be that Russia is using this for political cover, ... as an "excuse" not to reopen the lines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    It could be that Russia is using this for political cover, ... as an "excuse" not to reopen the lines.
    Highly unlikely.....much more likely this is America thinking that they are supporting Ukraine by doing what Ukraine wants and also thinking that they are destroying a Russian asset, not caring that a Europe that cant get energy dies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    Highly unlikely.....much more likely this is America thinking that they are supporting Ukraine by doing what Ukraine wants and also thinking that they are destroying a Russian asset, not caring that a Europe that cant get energy dies.
    I don't think Ukraine would undermine and sabotage its NATO allies.

    There's going to be lots of theories, ... and we'll never know the real truth.
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    Didn't Russia just shut the Nord Stream down? If they didn't plan to sell Europe gas out of it perhaps they damaged a repairable area so they could blame Ukraine. That way Europe would be pissed at Ukraine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    I don't think Ukraine would undermine and sabotage its NATO allies.

    There's going to be lots of theories, ... and we'll never know the real truth.
    Maybe some of our satellites have photos that could help with the investigation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    It could be that Russia is using this for political cover, ... as an "excuse" not to reopen the lines.
    Or an excuse to blame Ukraine for Europe's winter without gas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    Maybe some of our satellites have photos that could help with the investigation.
    Maybe. But it happened at the bottom of the ocean, and Russia will be the lead investigator.
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