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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    So do you think global warming is to blame for this hurricane?
    I think climate change is responsible for the increased intensity of hurricanes.

    To what do you attribute the factual rise in intensity of hurricanes over the past two decades? God? Homos? LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    You're lucky. So you're predicting a "nothing burger". Good.

    At the moment, Ian is reported to be 2MPH short of a Cat 5. No doubt it's just a fucking Lefty Liberal Global Warming hoax and this is just a little high tide and thunderstorms. Do you plan on going to be beach today? Windsurfing?
    I didn't write that about this storm. I said I've been through many and a lot are nothing burgers. That is a fact.

    Address what I actually write instead of lying.

    The storm will come through and move on, life here will go on. We are used to it and better prepared than any state. Thankfully I won't get much from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Not really. New Orleans was horribly unprepared and has a significant population of really stupid people living in it. Florida, in contrast, has far better preparations for hurricanes and the population isn't nearly a bunch of total idiots as were in New Orleans. The rest of the Gulf coast that got hit by Katrina did pretty well in the aftermath, even as damage to property was very extensive.
    We can agree it's mainly the stupid people who end up dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    I'm going with 50-100...and that's hedging my bet, since this could easily turn into another Katrina.

    https://www.history.com/news/hurrica...a-facts-legacy
    Hurricane Katrina, the tropical cyclone that struck the Gulf Coast in August 2005, was the third-strongest hurricane to hit the United States in its history at the time. With maximum sustained winds of 175 mph, the storm killed a total of 1,833 people and left millions homeless in New Orleans and along the Gulf Coast of Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama.
    I will add, you may be correct, or I might be on the count. We will certainly see. But I am confident that Florida isn't anywhere as fucked up as New Orleans was in terms of both preparedness and having a population that can deal with a storm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
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    If that.

    Most people in the direct path are smart enough to evacuate and there is plenty of time to do so, unlike earthquakes and tornados.

    If not, it's called Natural Selection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    I will add, you may be correct, or I might be on the count. We will certainly see. But I am confident that Florida isn't anywhere as fucked up as New Orleans was in terms of both preparedness and having a population that can deal with a storm.
    Bingo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Life is Golden View Post
    If that.

    Most people in the direct path are smart enough to evacuate and there is plenty of time to do so, unlike earthquakes and tornados.

    If not, it's called Natural Selection.
    Agreed on natural selection. That's why it's mainly the stupid people who drown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    So do you think global warming is to blame for this hurricane?
    It is irrational and non-scientific to attribute one single event to global warming. It may very well be that it is more intense due to global warming but it would be impossible to say that with any confidence.

    Single data points in larger data sets are useless by themselves. It requires us to look at a much larger data set.

    Now, that being said, there is virtually no doubt that global climate change is real and having an impact. But you can't really point to one data point and say "ah ha! Global warming!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    We can agree it's mainly the stupid people who end up dead.


    This was New Orleans during Katrina.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    I will add, you may be correct, or I might be on the count. We will certainly see. But I am confident that Florida isn't anywhere as fucked up as New Orleans was in terms of both preparedness and having a population that can deal with a storm.
    Stupid people building homes or living in trailers on land only a few feet above sea level in a hurricane zone are the prime candidates for drowning.

    http://www.joeandfrede.com/usa/state_topo_maps.htm
    http://www.joeandfrede.com/usa/florida_topo_med_res.png

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    I will add, you may be correct, or I might be on the count. We will certainly see. But I am confident that Florida isn't anywhere as fucked up as New Orleans was in terms of both preparedness and having a population that can deal with a storm.
    The mess in NOLA was also in part due to the construction of the levees, so lay some blame at the doorstep of the US government. But, yes, NOLA is and always will be a political mess. I'm not entirely certain that Ron DeSantis has his eye on the ball, though in Florida. He's too busy playing culture warrior and trying to be the next Trump to focus.

    But I guess we'll see. And for all his hatred of folks up North, Mr. DeSantis will still take our money to help fix the damage from this hurricane as we always do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Life is Golden View Post
    Bingo.
    So how many deaths are you predicting? Zero? Less than 10?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Life is Golden View Post
    I didn't write that about this storm. I said I've been through many and a lot are nothing burgers. That is a fact.

    Address what I actually write instead of lying.

    The storm will come through and move on, life here will go on. We are used to it and better prepared than any state. Thankfully I won't get much from it.
    Thanks for trying to walk back your earlier claim.

    It's good the facts of this storm are sinking in...which makes it understandable why you won't predict the death count from Ian.



    Quote Originally Posted by Life is Golden View Post
    Many. The electric companies here restore power soon after the winds die down. More times than not, it's been a nothing burger. This is the media's Super Bowl. The threat is always overdone to the hilt. Our infrastructure and preparedness are second to none.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perry Phimosis View Post
    The mess in NOLA was also in part due to the construction of the levees, so lay some blame at the doorstep of the US government. But, yes, NOLA is and always will be a political mess. I'm not entirely certain that Ron DeSantis has his eye on the ball, though in Florida. He's too busy playing culture warrior and trying to be the next Trump to focus.

    But I guess we'll see. And for all his hatred of folks up North, Mr. DeSantis will still take our money to help fix the damage from this hurricane as we always do.
    The levee issue was more one of local and state government not using monies given them for maintenance and improvement of those but rather for irrelevant pet projects like a gold course. It didn't help that much of the levee design was engineered decades before and was now badly substandard by current engineering methods. Complacency and incompetence were the norm there, and the city paid dearly for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    So how many deaths are you predicting? Zero? Less than 10?
    Have no clue. There are a lot of transplants here. Locals near the coast usually leave. There is no reason for one death except stupidity.

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