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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    It’s a vote she regrets to this day, she trusted Bush to use the vote only after all diplomacy failed, and the inspections found evidence of what Bush claimed. He deceived all of them.
    Translation: Hillary was too gullible and stupid to be President.

    The Senate committees on Intelligence and our military had all the facts like Bush. If Bush was saying something different than the Senate and House committees, why didn't they ask for the intel?

    I'll take my groans now, please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    ^^^ Thanks for this. LOL

    Not that I expect JPP's concrete thinkers to read, much less comprehend, this:

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kerrys-top-ten-flip-flops/
    Kerry's Top Ten Flip-Flops
    "We should not have gone to war knowing the information that we know today," Kerry said Wednesday on ABC's "Good Morning America." "Knowing there was no imminent threat to America, knowing there were no weapons of mass destruction, knowing there was no connection of Saddam Hussein to al Qaeda, I would not have gone to war. That's plain and simple."

    Bush lied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LurchAddams View Post
    Every once in awhile, I make fun of Reagan. That's a "red line" for poor Dutchie.. I think Dutch has a false wall in the back of his closet where he's built a Ron and Nancy shrine he prays to daily.
    LOL Sorry, Lurch, I'm not like you and your worship of JFK, LBJ and other Democratic warmongers.

    Reagan did a lot for the US on the international scene. His biggest weaknesses were domestically; AIDS and the PATCO strike being two major faults. If you were an abstract thinker, you'd be able to use the search function to see I've addressed these faults before.

    FYI, I don't worship anything. I do, however, respect many things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LurchAddams View Post
    I don't thank anyone for starting a war. You're in a bit of a mood, Sparky. Why you don't retire to your mom's basement and engage in your daily freak session with your inflatable Nancy Reagan sex doll?
    ^^^ the emotional response of a concrete thinker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    ^^^ Thanks for this. LOL

    Not that I expect JPP's concrete thinkers to read, much less comprehend, this:

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kerrys-top-ten-flip-flops/
    Kerry's Top Ten Flip-Flops
    Many Senate Democrats (Kerry wasn't in that picture) disgraced themselves at the outset on Vietnam. No question about it.
    "Give pearls away and rubies but keep your fancy free."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    "We should not have gone to war knowing the information that we know today," Kerry said Wednesday on ABC's "Good Morning America." "Knowing there was no imminent threat to America, knowing there were no weapons of mass destruction, knowing there was no connection of Saddam Hussein to al Qaeda, I would not have gone to war. That's plain and simple."

    Bush lied.
    Bush lied to the public. Anyone in Congress who uses that lie to cover their ass is a liar. You already know what I think of Hillary and Kerry on the matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Translation: Hillary was too gullible and stupid to be President.

    The Senate committees on Intelligence and our military had all the facts like Bush. If Bush was saying something different than the Senate and House committees, why didn't they ask for the intel?

    I'll take my groans now, please.
    My pleasure

    She wasn’t gullible, she believed a man’s word. Bush lied. Intel was being manipulated. Colin Powell lied as well. They all lied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Bush lied to the public. Anyone in Congress who uses that lie to cover their ass is a liar. You already know what I think of Hillary and Kerry on the matter.
    The Bush administration lied to everyone and manipulated intel. They lied us into an unnecessary war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by martin View Post
    Many Senate Democrats disgraced themselves at the outset on Vietnam. No question about it.
    TBH, given the times, I, too, supported the Soviet containment strategy. Cold War, including Proxy Wars, is always preferable to the alternative: A hot thermonuclear war.

    The main point I've kept trying to make is differentiating between a military defeat and a political defeat. The US was defeated politically, not militarily, in Vietnam, mainly due to our own actions and inactions.

    Russia is getting its ass kicked militarily in Ukraine, and the political defeat is coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    The Bush administration lied to everyone and manipulated intel. They lied us into an unnecessary war.
    Hillary is too gullible to be President if she solely relied upon Bush to determine whether to send Americans into Iraq.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LurchAddams View Post
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...ation-ukraine/

    https://abcnews.go.com/International...ry?id=90588897

    This thread's subject is about Russians fleeing Russia to avoid Putin's folly. You want to make it about Democrats supporting wars.

    Have fun with your lib-bashing. This is because I tell the truth about what a fool and criminal your St. Reagan was, isn't it? He was a fucking racist asshole, Dutch. Everyone knows it. His family knows it. And his wife Nancy? A total freak. Thought that "just saying no" was going to stop drug addiction.

    You need to find some better heroes, Dutch.
    ^^^ Thanks for the emotional response. It confirms everything I think about you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    It’s a vote she regrets to this day, she trusted Bush to use the vote only after all diplomacy failed, and the inspections found evidence of what Bush claimed. He deceived all of them.
    The result was the most illegal and costly war the US has ever waged, other than the other one Bush started, Afghanistan. Had we stayed on point and ignored that Iraq garbage, we'd have caught Bin Laden back in the early 2000's and it would have saved us so much blood and treasure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    ^^^ Thanks for this. LOL

    Not that I expect JPP's concrete thinkers to read, much less comprehend, this:

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kerrys-top-ten-flip-flops/
    Kerry's Top Ten Flip-Flops
    Kerry campaigned against the war during his presidential run. You can try to pin the crime on the Dems all you want, Susie. You're just so full of "lib hate" you can't think straight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    LOL Sorry, Lurch, I'm not like you and your worship of JFK, LBJ and other Democratic warmongers.

    Reagan did a lot for the US on the international scene. His biggest weaknesses were domestically; AIDS and the PATCO strike being two major faults. If you were an abstract thinker, you'd be able to use the search function to see I've addressed these faults before.

    FYI, I don't worship anything. I do, however, respect many things.
    Unlike you, I don't "worship" anything but what is morally righteous.

    Lying to get us into a war like Bush and Cheney did: Bad.

    Getting us out of wars like Biden did: Good.

    You don't need to be an "abstract thinker" to know the difference between right and wrong.

    Here's another one:

    Waging an illegal war in Central America like Reagan did: Wrong.

    Prosecuting the criminals in the Reagan admin for the "arms for hostages" shit show: Good.

    Let me know if you need any more help with your broke moral compass, Tiffany.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    ^^^ the emotional response of a concrete thinker.
    No, it's the appropriate response to you for your adulation over a senile, paranoid, evil dickhead like Reagan and his battle-axe of a freak wife.
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