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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    the movie biz can do a good job presenting source material as the first 4 years or so of GOT shows. So long as they had books to screenplay from they were very good. When they got left to their own devices they struggle.

    Always a few exceptions (Sopranos for example in tv of Godfather 2&3 in movies). Problem now seems to be how can they not spend money on creativity to have money for smoke and mirrors.
    Its not that they cant pay for a good story, it is that they dont give a fuck about the story.

    And then they stand around scratching their balls wondering why the public has giving up on cinema.
    This illegal illegitimate regime that runs America is at fault...not me.... they do not represent me and I have long objected to their crimes against humanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    Its not that they cant pay for a good story, it is that they dont give a fuck about the story.

    And then they stand around scratching their balls wondering why the public has giving up on cinema.
    I think you will find that this is more a matter of playing to their audience which is 16-25 yr olds. FX sells to them which is why we get endless comic book crap. its been like a decade since I went to a movie theater.
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    Fortunately, I cut the cable years ago.


    But - imo - since about 1999.
    And especially so since about 2010.
    Popular forms of art - including pop music, television shows. cinema movies and (lately) dramatic, streaming services (like Netflix)?
    Seem to have, virtually given up on originality.
    And now just focus on formulaic production.
    And the regurgitation of anything from the past that was successful.


    The latter is especially evident in science fiction.

    Almost all, mainstream sci-fi today comprises using VERY old, well known, comic book figures (Batman, Spiderman, Wonder Woman, etc.).
    And regurgitating, everything else sci-fi that was ever successful (Star Trek, Star Wars, Dr. Who, Lord of the Rings, etc.).

    And that corporations can legally get their hands on.

    Every, single, one of these things were created - at least - 55 years ago (except Star Wars - 45 years ago).

    The mainstream, artistic world seems to have hit a low point.
    And it seems to be in no hurry to reverse course.



    BTW - I should add that 'alternative' forms of entertainment are alive and well.
    They just are much, more difficult to find now.
    Then they were about 20 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    I think you will find that this is more a matter of playing to their audience which is 16-25 yr olds. FX sells to them which is why we get endless comic book crap. its been like a decade since I went to a movie theater.
    I agree to a point.
    However.

    The 18-34 demographic has LONG been the focus of popular media.
    For generations.

    And there were plenty of 'comic book TV shows/movies' in the past.
    Batman and Superman have been in main stream use, near-constantly since the late 1970's.

    From 1980-2000+?
    There were TONS of original, science fiction shows/movies.
    https://www.imdb.com/list/ls000097680/
    https://www.imdb.com/list/ls000097256/

    But, starting at roughly the millennium, the masses slowly, stopped requiring originality in their sci-fi.
    They just wanted safe, solid, non-threatening/challenging sci-fi.

    And this corresponds with the emergence of late-Millennials and Centennials (born between 1995 and 2008) reaching the 18-34 demographic.
    And this group is clearly (on both sides - but mostly on the left) associated with emotional weakness and laziness (both actual and intellectual).
    https://marketingartfully.com/custom...anges-numbers/

    And before you blame them entirely?
    Remember, they were raised by earlier generations - later Boomer's and X-Gen's.
    These parents were the ones who - unintentionally - fucked up their children (for numerous reasons).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    I think you will find that this is more a matter of playing to their audience which is 16-25 yr olds. FX sells to them which is why we get endless comic book crap. its been like a decade since I went to a movie theater.
    You remind me that I read a reviewer calling this story an infantile version of Tolkien.
    This illegal illegitimate regime that runs America is at fault...not me.... they do not represent me and I have long objected to their crimes against humanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    1) WOKE to include being overly dramatic.

    2) Boring

    3) A betrayal of Tolkien...the trust or whoever took the Big Money and approved this should be ashamed of themselves.






    Tell me that I am wrong.
    More appropriately:

    Portray wokeism, whatever the hell that is, as a threat to civilization

    Cast everything as a melodrama, good/bad guy, to catch lemmings attention

    Worship the big money

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    You remind me that I read a reviewer calling this story an infantile version of Tolkien.
    producer: LOTR made a shitload of money, thta guy write anything else ?
    writer: yeah one other book thats kind of the history before LOTR, but its pretty spread out and not a real story.
    producer: fuck that, who owns the rights ?
    lawyer: nobody so far as I know
    producer: what are you waiting for ? sign um up. Amazon is spending huge for content...
    lawyer: just cash of a percentage too ?
    producer: dont be stupid
    writer: uh ok what part do you want to do ?
    producer: the part that Amazon will buy dumbass !
    writer: uh ok I'll check it out
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    Haven't watched it yet, but it looks beautiful from a visual. Much of what it presented today is derivative, but there have been, and continue to be, some great shows and movies coming out. There is more crap than ever, but that's because of how extensive the libraries of these networks need to be. Almost all of the good storytelling is now reserved for streaming services. Over the years, they have produced by far the besty series (Succession, Breaking Bad, Deadwood, Severance to name a few).

    House of the Dragon is riveting, I just hope they can follow through and not get lazy and sloppy like they did with the last two seasons of GoT.

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    We R Done!

    We have just now decided.

    Boring + Mopey = NO!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    1) WOKE to include being overly dramatic.

    2) Boring

    3) A betrayal of Tolkien...the trust or whoever took the Big Money and approved this should be ashamed of themselves.


    Tell me that I am wrong.
    Try this ring of power?


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