Italy Rejects New World Order: Meloni wins!

[Yakuda]

https://nypost.com/2022/09/26/ted-cr...iorgia-meloni/

Sen. Ted Cruz had one word — “spectacular” — for Giorgia Meloni’s victory speech after her far-right party won the most votes in Italy’s national election Sunday, leaving Meloni poised to become the European country’s first female prime minister.

The Texas Republican tweeted out his response to Meloni’s speech early Monday, linking to a video of her address as a right-wing coalition led by the Brothers of Italy party won a majority in the elections.

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) also praised Meloni’s speech, though Greene misspelled the prospective new prime minister’s first name.

“So beautifully said. Congratulations to Giorgio Meloni and to the people of Italy​,” Greene said on Twitter.

Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) tweeted that he and his Republican colleagues are ready to work with Meloni as she takes the helm of the Italian government. ​



“Congratulations to Giorgia Meloni and the winners of the Italian elections. We look forward to working with her and other Italian leaders to advance our shared interests. America is stronger when Italy is strong, sovereign, prosperous, and free,” he said.

Maybe Europe is starting to get their heads out of their asses. Maybe it will catch on here

[Lionfish]

[Tranquillus in Exile]

Modern conservativism is classical liberalism, not leftist fascism.
Classical liberalism is a political ideology and a branch of liberalism that advocates free market and laissez-faire economics; civil liberties under the rule of law with an emphasis on limited government, economic freedom, and political freedom.

The idea that liberalism comes in two forms [classical and modern] assumes that the most fundamental question facing mankind is how much governments should intervene in the economy. But when instead we discuss human purpose, Adam Smith and J. M. Keynes are on the same side. For Smith, mercantilism was the enemy of human liberty. For Keynes, monopolies were. It makes perfect sense for an eighteenth-century thinker to conclude that humanity would flourish under a free market. For a twentieth century thinker ... government was an essential tool to the same end.

https://newrepublic.com/article/49001/false-distinction


Not many people thought that a free market could lead to something like the Great Depression, but it did. A good case can be made that Franklin D. Roosevelt, following essentially Keynesian ideas, saved American capitalism from itself. (At the time they called him a communist.)

[Bigdog]

The idea that liberalism comes in two forms [classical and modern] assumes that the most fundamental question facing mankind is how much governments should intervene in the economy. But when instead we discuss human purpose, Adam Smith and J. M. Keynes are on the same side. For Smith, mercantilism was the enemy of human liberty. For Keynes, monopolies were. It makes perfect sense for an eighteenth-century thinker to conclude that humanity would flourish under a free market. For a twentieth century thinker ... government was an essential tool to the same end.

https://newrepublic.com/article/49001/false-distinction


Not many people thought that a free market could lead to something like the Great Depression, but it did. A good case can be made that Franklin D. Roosevelt, following essentially Keynesian ideas, saved American capitalism from itself. (At the time they called him a communist.)

The fact that the Orwellian Left redefined Liberalism to mean its opposite, Big Gov't Socialism, is all you need to know.

[Tranquillus in Exile]

The fact that the Orwellian Left redefined Liberalism to mean its opposite, Big Gov't Socialism, is all you need to know.

"Orwellian Left" is closer to the truth than you think. ORWELL was a socialist - a strong supporter of the post-1945 British Labour govt.

How do you explain that? The author of 1984 hated liberty, perhaps? Have you read any Orwell apart from his big hits?

[LV426]

"Orwellian Left" is closer to the truth than you think. ORWELL was a socialist - a strong supporter of the post-1945 British Labour govt.

How do you explain that? The author of 1984 hated liberty, perhaps? Have you read any Orwell apart from his big hits?

He hasn't even read the big hits.

[Bigdog]

"Orwellian Left" is closer to the truth than you think. ORWELL was a socialist - a strong supporter of the post-1945 British Labour govt.

How do you explain that? The author of 1984 hated liberty, perhaps? Have you read any Orwell apart from his big hits?

Are you trying to infer that Ingsoc or 'the pigs' were examples of classical liberalism?

[Tranquillus in Exile]

Are you trying to infer that Ingsoc or 'the pigs' were examples of classical liberalism?

No. Ingsoc was the epitome of soulless totalitarianism, which Orwell utterly opposed whether of the right or left. The 'pigs' were Stalinist apparatchiks, ditto.

That covers 1984 and Animal Farm. Got any more?

[martin]

Some in the world are waking up.

More like going to sleep in the false dream of fascism. Meloni herself is a graduate of the Italian post WWII version of Hitler's "Youth Movement".

[Flash]

She will be thrown out just like all the other Italian governments

Since the end of World War II in 1945, Italy has had 69 governments, at an average of one every 1.11 years.

This illustrates the problem of parliamentary systems with multi-member districts and proportional representation.

[Doc Dutch]

https://nypost.com/2022/09/26/ted-cr...iorgia-meloni/

Sen. Ted Cruz had one word — “spectacular” — for Giorgia Meloni’s victory speech after her far-right party won the most votes in Italy’s national election Sunday, leaving Meloni poised to become the European country’s first female prime minister.

The Texas Republican tweeted out his response to Meloni’s speech early Monday, linking to a video of her address as a right-wing coalition led by the Brothers of Italy party won a majority in the elections.

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) also praised Meloni’s speech, though Greene misspelled the prospective new prime minister’s first name.

“So beautifully said. Congratulations to Giorgio Meloni and to the people of Italy​,” Greene said on Twitter.

Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) tweeted that he and his Republican colleagues are ready to work with Meloni as she takes the helm of the Italian government. ​



“Congratulations to Giorgia Meloni and the winners of the Italian elections. We look forward to working with her and other Italian leaders to advance our shared interests. America is stronger when Italy is strong, sovereign, prosperous, and free,” he said.

She should pick out her lamppost now. LOL

[Doc Dutch]

Some in the world are waking up.

About 100 years ago they did the same thing in both Germany and Italy. You must be very pleased to see history repeat itself.

[Lionfish]

More like going to sleep in the false dream of fascism. Meloni herself is a graduate of the Italian post WWII version of Hitler's "Youth Movement".

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The logical solution for you malcontent lefties,..................boycott pizza, quality olive oil, and high end very fast cars with names you cannot pronounce.

[Guno צְבִי]

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The logical solution for you malcontent lefties,..................boycott pizza, quality olive oil, and high end very fast cars with names you cannot pronounce.

^^^^^^^^^^^

Ignorant of history and proud

[Bigdog]

No. Ingsoc was the epitome of soulless totalitarianism, which Orwell utterly opposed whether of the right or left. The 'pigs' were Stalinist apparatchiks, ditto.

That covers 1984 and Animal Farm. Got any more?

So it escaped you that Orwell's Ingsoc was a derivative of English Socialism, and that Stalin's regime was Socialist.