Russians react to Vlad's mobilization order

[Cypress]

[Hawkeye10]

Russians are a little thin on choices at the moment.

[moon]

“Why should they ask me to put on a uniform and go ten thousand miles from home and drop bombs and bullets on brown people in Vietnam while so-called Negro people in Louisville are treated like dogs and denied simple human rights?

No, I am not going ten thousand miles from home to help murder and burn another poor nation simply to continue the domination of white slave masters of the darker people the world over. This is the day when such evils must come to an end. I have been warned that to take such a stand would put my prestige in jeopardy and could cause me to lose millions of dollars which should accrue to me as the champion.

But I have said it once and I will say it again. The real enemy of my people is right here. I will not disgrace my religion, my people or myself by becoming a tool to enslave those who are fighting for their own justice, freedom and equality…

If I thought the war was going to bring freedom and equality to 22 million of my people they wouldn’t have to draft me, I’d join tomorrow. But I either have to obey the laws of the land or the laws of Allah. I have nothing to lose by standing up for my beliefs. So I’ll go to jail. We’ve been in jail for four hundred years.”

Opposition to conscription is a world-wide fact, not a Russian characteristic .
Those Ukrainians that escaped before there was a ban on them leaving will only be able to return home post -Zelensky.

[moon]

The number of U.S. draft evaders who went to Canada was a fraction of those who resisted the Vietnam War. According to a 1978 book by former members of President Gerald Ford's Clemency Board, 210,000 Americans were accused of draft offenses and 30,000 left the country.

So quit your Russophobic mantras and start to see Russians as people just like Americans, bugler.

[Cypress]

The thing that struck me was the difference in the quality of answers between people who were anti-war, and those who, on camera at least, were nominally pro war.

The antiwar people had compelling moral reasons and clear convictions.

The pro war people didn't really seem to have their heart in the answer, and they responded with meaningless platitudes like protecting the honor of Russia, deferring to Putin's judgment, or half hearted comments about maybe wanting to fight.

[Cypress]

The number of U.S. draft evaders who went to Canada was a fraction of those who resisted the Vietnam War. According to a 1978 book by former members of President Gerald Ford's Clemency Board, 210,000 Americans were accused of draft offenses and 30,000 left the country.


So quit your Russophobic mantras and start to see Russians as people just like Americans, bugler.

You're making progress. This is the first time you have recognized the unethical nature of your war on Ukraine, by drawing a parallel to the immoral Vietnam war.

[moon]

You're making progress. This is the first time you have recognized the unethical nature of your war on Ukraine, by drawing a parallel to the immoral Vietnam war.

It isn't ' my war '- I just happen to be able to see that it's NATO's- and you ain't.

[Cypress]

It isn't ' my war '- I just happen to be able to see that it's NATO's- and you ain't.

Your relentless defense of and excuses for Putin's illegal invasion of the sovereign state of Ukraine has revealed you to be morally corrupt.

[anonymoose]

It isn't ' my war '- I just happen to be able to see that it's NATO's- and you ain't.

NATO invaded Ukraine and Russia is defending Ukraine?

[floridafan]

It isn't ' my war '- I just happen to be able to see that it's NATO's- and you ain't.

It was nobody's war until Russia chose to invade, and now they are being decimated, as they deserve.

[Doc Dutch]

Russians are a little thin on choices at the moment.

Option 'A' is always open:

[Doc Dutch]

It isn't ' my war '- I just happen to be able to see that it's NATO's- and you ain't.

Your relentless defense of and excuses for Putin's illegal invasion of the sovereign state of Ukraine has revealed you to be morally corrupt.

...or crazy. She's consistently anti-Western and pro-Putin/Islamic Jihad. Odd behavior for someone who claims to be living in the UK, eh?

[moon]

Your relentless defense of and excuses for Putin's illegal invasion of the sovereign state of Ukraine has revealed you to be morally corrupt.

NATO is the aggressor. The US itself can never hold a moral stance on the issue of invaded territories as long as it supports Zionist aggression, invasion and ethnic cleansing. You are a morality zombie.

[moon]

NATO invaded Ukraine and Russia is defending Ukraine?

The ludicrous over-simplicity suits you.

[moon]

It was nobody's war until Russia chose to invade, and now they are being decimated, as they deserve.

NATO forced the issue- and it ain't over 'til it's over.