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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Flash,

    It has everything to do with capitalism as that is the major part of our economy and government jobs must compete with private sector jobs. Democrats are more likely to increase pay and benefits of government jobs. Republicans are more likely to shaft government workers and screw them out of getting raises. Republicans are always trying to make government services look bad so they can privatize things and reward their big money donors. AOC is looking out for the hard working least rewarded sectors of our economy. People like Boebert, with her lack of a college degree, favor the rich employers who don't need any help at all.
    Following your "demand" that we all be "woke," PoliTalker has committed "microaggressions" against Republicans. Or, does being woke allow attacks on others?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello LurchAddams



    And that is no reason to drop to their level. Doing so is essentially saying if they can be mean and nasty, then that makes it OK for us to do the same thing. And I say no that is wrong. Observing wrong-doing does not somehow make it OK to do wrong. That would only work if two wrongs make a right; but they do not.

    Furthermore, it lowers us to their level.

    Michelle Obama has it right.

    When they go low, we go high.

    It is a mistake to equate all Republicans with the Trump cult.

    [video=youtube_share;ro8rkZ4HQZQ]https://youtu.be/ro8rkZ4HQZQ
    Ask Hilary Clinton how much "going high" helped get her elected in 2016. MAGA's not respect politeness, they respect only strength.

    Find me anyone in the MAGA world who respects, "being nice". Who should I be talking to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    A college degree doesn't necessarily indicate a higher intelligence. It indicates an ability and willingness to do the work required to earn that degree. Highly intelligent people can often be bad at school because they are bored.
    So that was my excuse? Thank you

    I agree, my current job (sales) does not require a college degree and I'll never do anything else. I am glad I had the college experience and I did retain a lot of what I learned in school. So college, although not required to be successful, is an asset. You can also have just as a rewarding an experience by back-packing around the world after high school. I admire people who do that.
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    Hello Poor Richard Saunders,

    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    A college degree doesn't necessarily indicate a higher intelligence. It indicates an ability and willingness to do the work required to earn that degree. Highly intelligent people can often be bad at school because they are bored.
    Exceptions do exist. There is nothing to suggest it in this case.
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    Hello Flash,

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    I did not see any attack on AOC for having compassion for people working multiple jobs. Her knowledge of economics was questioned for thinking people with multiple jobs was one reason for the low unemployment rate.
    Someone looking to bust her chops would have to look at minutia. Looks to me like she took an opportunity to make a good point. Counting someone as working by definition of working one hour per week hardly means they are doing OK. Sure, the unemployment rate is low, but that does not accurately reflect that people are doing OK. Some of them are working multiple jobs and still struggling. That was the point she wanted to make. If she made it sound like a misunderstanding of economics that wasn't the point, but those with a closed mind and a heap of prejudice will look for whatever they can to criticize her, while purposely overlooking her concern for struggling American workers who can't even make ends meet despite working multiple jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
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    Hello Flash,

    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Following your "demand" that we all be "woke," PoliTalker has committed "microaggressions" against Republicans. Or, does being woke allow attacks on others?
    I have attacked no one in particular, yet offered sound criticism where it was due.

    That is what woke is all about. Concern for those members of society who are economically attacked by the rich and powerful, and characteristically attacked by the prejudiced and hateful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Flash,

    Someone looking to bust her chops would have to look at minutia. Looks to me like she took an opportunity to make a good point. Counting someone as working by definition of working one hour per week hardly means they are doing OK. Sure, the unemployment rate is low, but that does not accurately reflect that people are doing OK. Some of them are working multiple jobs and still struggling. That was the point she wanted to make. If she made it sound like a misunderstanding of economics that wasn't the point, but those with a closed mind and a heap of prejudice will look for whatever they can to criticize her, while purposely overlooking her concern for struggling American workers who can't even make ends meet despite working multiple jobs.
    A person does not have to be prejudiced or dislike AOC to correct her description of how unemployment is determined. The topic was unemployment rate and had nothing to do with compassion, people struggling, or making ends meet. Misunderstanding the unemployment rate gives no help to any of these problems. Everything is not about partisan explanations; sometimes, truthful explanations and knowledge is the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Flash,

    I have attacked no one in particular, yet offered sound criticism where it was due.

    That is what woke is all about. Concern for those members of society who are economically attacked by the rich and powerful, and characteristically attacked by the prejudiced and hateful.
    Attacking anybody is an unacceptable microaggression (to the really woke). Microaggressions do not just apply to those who are not rich and powerful but to attacks on every person assuming you still favor civil discourse.

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    Hello LurchAddams,

    Quote Originally Posted by LurchAddams View Post
    Ask Hilary Clinton how much "going high" helped get her elected in 2016. MAGA's not respect politeness, they respect only strength.

    Fine me anyone in the MAGA world who respects, "being nice". Who should I be talking to?
    It did get Hillary 3 million more votes. America preferred Hillary.

    The people who tacitly support Trump because they fear Democrats more than Trump are not quotable public figures so it would be impossible to offer examples, but that doesn't mean they can't be nice people.

    And in general, so many of them turned on Trump in 2020 that he lost both the popular vote and the electoral vote. Many of those who voted against Trump are Republicans.

    Here are Republicans, being nice, and critical of the cult:

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    Hello Flash,

    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    A person does not have to be prejudiced or dislike AOC to correct her description of how unemployment is determined. The topic was unemployment rate and had nothing to do with compassion, people struggling, or making ends meet. Misunderstanding the unemployment rate gives no help to any of these problems. Everything is not about partisan explanations; sometimes, truthful explanations and knowledge is the point.
    And sometimes getting hung up on a small thing makes it possible to miss the big picture.
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    Hello Flash,

    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Attacking anybody is an unacceptable microaggression (to the really woke). Microaggressions do not just apply to those who are not rich and powerful but to attacks on every person assuming you still favor civil discourse.
    Are you attempting to establish that it is inappropriate to criticize the Republican party?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    I'm not sure AOC is crazy smart. When explaining why unemployment was so low she said it was because many people were working 2-3 jobs--that from an economics major.
    I would have to see the quote and the context before accepting your interpretation. Do you have a link?
    "We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid."

    "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain - and most fools do."

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Flash,

    And sometimes getting hung up on a small thing makes it possible to miss the big picture.
    Sure, but the big picture was not the topic, it was how we calculate the unemployment rate. Sometimes it is necessary to understand the basics of the system before we can understand the big picture.

    If we think unemployment is falling because people are working 2-3 jobs that creates a very different big picture than more realistic explanations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Flash,

    Are you attempting to establish that it is inappropriate to criticize the Republican party?
    Nope, I was (kiddingly) following your call for everybody to be "woke."

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