overthrow state government or comply and be a slave

[SmarterthanYou]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicksib...e-court-rules/

@dutchuncle

so the question is, if your state government ignores it's constitutional limits, approved by the state supreme court, do you abide or overthrow?

In a major blow against government accountability, the South Carolina Supreme Court last week upheld the state’s civil forfeiture laws, which let police permanently confiscate cash, cars, and even homes, without ever filing criminal charges. By overturning a lower court ruling that declared civil forfeiture unconstitutional, the decision jeopardizes property rights for thousands of people across the Palmetto State.

A sweeping investigation by the Greenville News and Anderson Independent Mail identified at least 1,510 cases—nearly 40% of all forfeiture cases in the state—where the owner was never convicted of a crime. And under state law, if an owner doesn’t formally file a claim for their seized property, law enforcement agencies win a “default judgment” and keep what was taken. In South Carolina, over 70% of forfeiture cases were won by default.

Worse, state law provides a powerfully perverse incentive to police for profit. Once a property has been forfeited, the seizing agency keeps the first $1,000 and then 75% of the remainder. Prosecutors receive 20%, while a mere 5% is sent to the general fund. Since 2009, law enforcement has generated nearly $97 million in state forfeiture revenue.

“This ruling is both shocking and extraordinarily disappointing,” said Robert Frommer, a senior attorney at the Institute for Justice, which is litigating the case. “South Carolina’s forfeiture laws violate citizens’ property and constitutional rights, yet the court ruled that it’s up to the legislature—the very entity that enacted those laws—to protect those rights.”

The case dates back to 2017, when Travis Green was arrested on multiple charges around Myrtle Beach. In addition to confiscating narcotics, the 15th Circuit Drug Enforcement Unit seized $20,771 in cash from Green’s wallet and an outdoor garage closet. Although Green pled guilty, he challenged the government’s attempt to forfeit his property.

[MAGA MAN]

If you don't like that State, move to another one. That's the beauty of the Federalist system.

[SmarterthanYou]

If you don't like that State, move to another one. That's the beauty of the Federalist system.

don't be a fucking moron. do you think the founders of ANY state would have given the state government the power to confiscate the property of innocent people, forcing them to sue the government to get their property back at their own expense?

[MAGA MAN]

don't be a fucking moron. do you think the founders of ANY state would have given the state government the power to confiscate the property of innocent people, forcing them to sue the government to get their property back at their own expense?

Dude I grew up in Massachusetts, where everything is illegal unless the Dear State.gov declares it permissible. I left there "as soon as I could", and could care less about leaving.

[SmarterthanYou]

Dude I grew up in Massachusetts, where everything is illegal unless the Dear State.gov declares it permissible. I left there "as soon as I could", and could care less about leaving.

that sounds prudent, but it doesn't answer the Constitutional question

[MAGA MAN]

that sounds prudent, but it doesn't answer the Constitutional question

Best to educate folks on limited Federal government and let the states do as they will.

[saltydancin]

that sounds prudent, but it doesn't answer the Constitutional question

What Constitutional question since SCOTUS 1971 granted standing to McHeil's Navy theft & burning a US Constitution on a cross where "serve the Pope or die" also seems to be Russia's Orthodox Church rootin' tootin' Putin's Peter Principle pyramid scheme for modern day Ukraine as SCOTUS Rehnquist Fourth Reich July 9/11 thieving US Constitution arsonists some 20+ years ago in the current Islamidiotocracy Christiananality pedophilia national religion of suicidal super ego sociopsychopathilogical homicidal human farming of Washington, D.C. born USA citizens; descendants of DAR ancestors as "one nation under God with equal justice under law under color of law".

[SmarterthanYou]

Best to educate folks on limited Federal government and let the states do as they will.

so you're position is that state constitutions are irrelevant?

[MAGA MAN]

so you're position is that state constitutions are irrelevant?

My position is that I don't care what a state does, as long as I have the freedom to avoid it.

[Sirthinksalot]

The case dates back to 2017, when Travis Green was arrested on multiple charges around Myrtle Beach. In addition to confiscating narcotics, the 15th Circuit Drug Enforcement Unit seized $20,771 in cash from Green’s wallet and an outdoor garage closet. Although Green pled guilty, he challenged the government’s attempt to forfeit his property.

don't be a fucking moron. do you think the founders of ANY state would have given the state government the power to confiscate the property of innocent people, forcing them to sue the government to get their property back at their own expense?

Your own OP says he pled guilty.

[Sirthinksalot]

so you're position is that state constitutions are irrelevant?

*your

[RB 60]

My position is that I don't care what a state does, as long as I have the freedom to avoid it.

What will you do when their disease starts to spread? Run (maybe you've already answered that question)?

[MAGA MAN]

What will you do when their disease starts to spread? Run (maybe you've already answered that question)?

I left MA, then NY, and chose a state with more freedom. That's not running away - it's voting with my feet.

[RB 60]

I left MA, then NY, and chose a state with more freedom. That's not running away - it's voting with my feet.

If you left two states for more freedom, isn't that running away? Why not stay and be a vote to restore freedom where you are?

[Doc Dutch]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicksib...e-court-rules/

@dutchuncle

so the question is, if your state government ignores it's constitutional limits, approved by the state supreme court, do you abide or overthrow?...

False dilemma. Clearly, you love violence and want to kill Americans. You've been posting doing it for a couple of decades now, but the solution is to VOTE them out of office.

Your problem is, like Trump, you don't like the outcome of the votes so you want to kill off all those opposing you to alter the outcome.

It's why so many of your Threeper and Oath-Keeper friends are in jail now. What's odd to me is "Why aren't you in jail with them?" Is it because you gave them up like Kellye did?