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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    Stay tuned idiot. And yes the word idiot applies to any cocksucker like you who supports trump not only stealing top secret documents, but keeping them in plain site on his desk. No President in our history ha ever done that.
    it is sad how desperate you are to convict Trump of something........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Absurdity; the last desperate refuge for the ignorant, the dishonest and the stupid. Yay you!
    Yeah, it is absurd to say one can declassify documents by just thinking about it. Glad you agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    can you tell us whether the SC has in the past said that the president has the final authority to declassify documents........then can you tell us whether the law requires anything on the part of the president in the act of doing so..........if you can provide proof of anything in support of what you claim you may have a relevant argument........
    Just by thinking I am President and then by thinking I appointed 7 judges to the Supreme Court and then by thinking they ruled that way it happened. It was perfect. No one has ever thought better. It was the best thinking!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    dude.....an employee of the Trump organization has been indicted for lying on his personal tax return........are you stupid enough to think Trump is responsible for that?.....
    Hmm.. interesting how the indictment includes 15 counts and only 4 of them are for filing a false tax return. The other 11 also indict Trump Corporation for crimes from tax fraud to falsifying business documents to conspiracy to commit fraud.

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/01/polit...ges/index.html

    The crimes as charged was this:
    https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/PEN/190.65

    But I am curious why Weisselberg pleaded guilty to 15 crimes if he was only indicted for lying on his personal tax return.
    NEW YORK — Allen Weisselberg, who for decades was one of Donald Trump's most trusted and loyal employees as chief financial officer of the Trump family business, pleaded guilty on Thursday to 15 counts ranging from grand larceny to tax fraud to falsifying business records
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    it is sad how desperate you are to convict Trump of something........
    ' a convicted felon can run for president in the United States of America. The U.S. Constitution does not prevent a felon from running for the office of the President. What becomes interesting is whether they are able to handle the political fallout of running from or after spending time in prison, although this has become seemingly less of an issue in modern times.

    There are very limited requirements when running for Presidential election, which are listed below:

    The candidate contesting for the position must be a natural-born citizen of the United States of America.
    The candidate must be 35 years or older.
    The candidate should be a US resident for 14 years.'
    It isn't to prevent him from running for office then.

    Can a candidate run his campaign from jail ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    It isn't to prevent him from running for office then.

    Can a candidate run his campaign from jail ?
    Yes, a candidate can run his campaign from jail. He won't be attending any rallies but he can still run for office.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Yes, a candidate can run his campaign from jail. He won't be attending any rallies but he can still run for office.
    And should he win- can he pardon himself ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    And should he win- can he pardon himself ?
    There is nothing that says he can't pardon himself for Federal crimes. But that doesn't protect him from state crimes or civil lawsuits. For instance, he could pardon himself for tax fraud but the IRS could still file a civil lawsuit for back taxes and he can't pardon himself from having to pay back taxes if a court rules he owes them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    There is nothing that says he can't pardon himself for Federal crimes. But that doesn't protect him from state crimes or civil lawsuits. For instance, he could pardon himself for tax fraud but the IRS could still file a civil lawsuit for back taxes and he can't pardon himself from having to pay back taxes if a court rules he owes them
    And how will the international community react to America being led by a convicted and jailed felon ? It would definitely be a step down from having to liaise with a mobster.


    ( Are you getting the drift of how much damage the mango moron has done to the country to date ? )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Capitalist View Post
    Here's Trump's latest bullshit. He can 'declassify' documents by just thinking about them. Do you believe him?



    Trump’s claim of declassifying documents ‘by thinking about it’ is mocked by legal experts

    Former President Trump says he could declassify documents just “by thinking about it” — an outlandish claim that drew howls of outrage from legal experts.

    Speaking to Fox News’s Sean Hannity, Trump asserted there is no need for the president to formally declassify documents or even notify anyone that he has done so.

    “If you’re the president of the United States, you can declassify just by saying, ‘It’s declassified,’ even by thinking about it,” Trump said.


    “There can be a process, but there doesn’t have to be,” he added. “You’re the president. You make that decision.”

    Trump is scrambling to find a legally viable defense to the investigation into mishandling top secret documents that led to the Aug. 8 search of his Mar-a-Lago Florida resort.

    He apparently believes one defense could be that the documents were no longer classified because he says so.

    But experts vigorously dispute that, noting that he has never provided any evidence that he declassified them before leaving the White House.

    “I tried not to burst out laughing,” said Bradley P. Moss, a national security lawyer.

    A three-judge federal appeals court panel, including two Trump-appointed justices, trashed Trump’s claim Wednesday night, saying documents that are marked as classified are considered classified unless there is evidence they have been declassified.
    No and he doesnt either but he says this shit and you morons turn in to retards looking g for a corner in a round room. It's hilarious how easily he can make you people dance to his tune. Now you're going to tell me how he going to jail right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    No and he doesnt either but he says this shit and you morons turn in to retards looking g for a corner in a round room. It's hilarious how easily he can make you people dance to his tune. Now you're going to tell me how he going to jail right?


    Talk about posting foolish nonsense.
    Lock Him Up

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    Just what legal battles has he won? How bout the most current one regarding the stolen documents, or how about the criminal trial about to begin against the Trump Organization?

    Did he win the legal battle against the trump Foundation or possible the Trump University?
    Then we have the law suit regarding misuse of inauguration funds, which he also lost.
    This is just the tip, my dear, the losses he has suffered are immense.
    Here's a legal battle Trump lost:

    Donald J. Trump Pays Court-Ordered $2 Million For Illegally Using Trump Foundation Funds*
    Trump Ordered to Pay Eight Separate Charities $250,000 Each
    Remaining $1.8 Million in Trump Foundation Bank Account Disbursed Among Charities
    NEW YORK – New York Attorney General Letitia James today released the following statement after Donald J. Trump was forced to pay more than $2 million in court-ordered damages to eight different charities for illegally misusing charitable funds at the Trump Foundation for political purposes:
    “Not only has the Trump Foundation shut down for its misconduct, but the president has been forced to pay $2 million for misusing charitable funds for his own political gain. Charities are not a means to an end, which is why these damages speak to the president’s abuse of power and represent a victory for not-for-profits that follow the law.
    Judge Juan M. Merchan wrote that Trump “appears to take the position that his situation and this case are unique and that the pre-trial publicity will never subside. However, this view does not align with reality.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    and as a mere question on an internet political forum you have a supreme advantage in that you can make up your own facts......the sad thing is that for the last six years you have thought you could do the same thing in real life......hasn't worked for you so far.....there's no reason to expect it ever will....
    Okay, PostMortemPolyp.

    Answer me 'yes' or 'no'.

    Trump said: "If you're the president of the United States you can declassify just by saying: ‘It’s declassified.' Even by thinking about it," he added.

    Do you believe Trump can 'declassify' classified docs by just 'thinking about them'?

    It's a pretty straightforward question which requires a simple 'yes' or 'no' answer. Can you handle that, PostMortemPolyp?

    Or do you realize if you say 'no', you'll be defying your Orange Jesus and if you say 'yes', you'll look like as big of a fool as your Orange Jesus.


    I'm betting you don't have the balls to answer the question at all. So, which is it, PostMortemPolyp?
    Judge Juan M. Merchan wrote that Trump “appears to take the position that his situation and this case are unique and that the pre-trial publicity will never subside. However, this view does not align with reality.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    I wonder if his Tesla was one of the ones recalled......
    Yes, it was. But I don't have to bring it in to the shop to get it fixed. It's a simple software upgrade. It'll be fixed at my home in my garage. No sweat off my balls.



    Don't you just love these gas prices, PostMortemPolyp?

    Judge Juan M. Merchan wrote that Trump “appears to take the position that his situation and this case are unique and that the pre-trial publicity will never subside. However, this view does not align with reality.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Capitalist View Post
    Here's Trump's latest bullshit. He can 'declassify' documents by just thinking about them. Do you believe him?



    Trump’s claim of declassifying documents ‘by thinking about it’ is mocked by legal experts

    Former President Trump says he could declassify documents just “by thinking about it” — an outlandish claim that drew howls of outrage from legal experts.

    Speaking to Fox News’s Sean Hannity, Trump asserted there is no need for the president to formally declassify documents or even notify anyone that he has done so.

    “If you’re the president of the United States, you can declassify just by saying, ‘It’s declassified,’ even by thinking about it,” Trump said.
    The plenary power to classify and declassify rests solely with the POTUS.

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