Do people really support Trump?

***Phantasmal*** · 09-23-2022, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by Stone

Ask yourself......You have one of the more HATED righties in here treating you nicely most of the time and showing you respect. WHY do you think that is? Before you even answer, I will tell you. Because it is not only a good reflection on YOU,....but also on ME. You have shown me respect and treated me fairly,....therefor i have shown you respect and treated you fairly. This is how things SHOULD work in a better world.

I agree.

**Stone** · 09-23-2022, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by BartenderElite

Lovely platitude - but you were just caught in a lie (and anyone can verify that), and you couldn't admit to it. A lot like a political leader we all know.

**Stone** · 09-23-2022, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by Phantasmal

I agree.

Thank you,....then we are on the same page. Now,...about those cookies!

**BartenderElite** · 09-23-2022, 02:33 PM

And still can't admit it.

You'd have more credibility if you just admitted you were wrong about the market crashing. I always think that about Trump, too - he's so afraid to admit he might be wrong about something. But he'd seem like more of a man if he could 'fess up and just move on. More honor, more credibility.

**Stone** · 09-23-2022, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by BartenderElite

Progressive ideas have actually been behind almost every positive change we've had, from freeing the slaves to women's suffrage to civil rights.

I could have sworn that the big push to free the slaves began in my own home state the birth place of the G O P. Who knew......

**Stone** · 09-23-2022, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by BartenderElite

And still can't admit it.

You'd have more credibility if you just admitted you were wrong about the market crashing. I always think that about Trump, too - he's so afraid to admit he might be wrong about something. But he'd seem like more of a man if he could 'fess up and just move on. More honor, more credibility.

Inflation is transitory......

**BartenderElite** · 09-23-2022, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by Stone

I could have sworn that the big push to free the slaves began in my own home state the birth place of the G O P. Who knew......

I figured someone would try to compare the parties from the 1800's to what they are today.

Does that seem intellectually honest to you?

**BartenderElite** · 09-23-2022, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by Stone

Inflation is transitory......

It's really easy to do, man. I said that the market crashed under Trump, and you said I was a liar for that. All you have to do is say you were mistaken, and move on. It's not a big deal.

**Stone** · 09-23-2022, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by BartenderElite

I figured someone would try to compare the parties from the 1800's to what they are today.

Does that seem intellectually honest to you?

As honest as pretending that the market wouldnt have crashed because of covid if someone other than Trump would have been the president at the time.

**BartenderElite** · 09-23-2022, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by Stone

As honest as pretending that the market wouldnt have crashed because of covid if someone other than Trump would have been the president at the time.

I said that market crashed under Trump.

Is that true...or not true? It sounds above like you know that the market crashed....

**BartenderElite** · 09-23-2022, 02:57 PM

I also DO think that Trump was largely responsible for the crash, due to how poorly he handled COVID. But that's what is called an OPINION. And this board is all about opinions.

If you disagree and want to debate that, that's what I'm here for. But it's not a LIE. It's an opinion.

**Stone** · 09-23-2022, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by BartenderElite

I said that market crashed under Trump.

Is that true...or not true? It sounds above like you know that the market crashed....

Nice how you dodged the most important part of my statement. This proving these talks are a waste of time. Thanks for proving me correct. As if I couldnt have guessed after the last 30 years of me formerly trying to discuss and debate the left earnestly to no avail. DONE.

**Hawkeye10** · 09-23-2022, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by Stone

Nice how you dodged the most important part of my statement. This proving these talks are a waste of time. Thanks for proving me correct. As if I couldnt have guessed after the last 30 years of me formerly trying to discuss and debate the left earnestly to no avail. DONE.

You make the same point as does Peter Hitchens, basically "I was a fool for all those years trying to debate the issues with these people, they have no interest in debate or in facts or reality, they are out to impose their will by any means necessary".

**BartenderElite** · 09-23-2022, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by Stone

Nice how you dodged the most important part of my statement. This proving these talks are a waste of time. Thanks for proving me correct. As if I couldnt have guessed after the last 30 years of me formerly trying to discuss and debate the left earnestly to no avail. DONE.

I really don't know what you're talking about. I didn't lie when I said the market crashed under Trump, and my thinking Trump gave an assist on that is opinion - not a lie.

I have to assume that you simply can't debate that. I'm not sitting here dodging anything.

**Stone** · 09-23-2022, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by Hawkeye10

You make the same point as does Peter Hitchens, basically "I was a fool for all those years trying to debate the issues with these people, they have no interest in debate or in facts or reality, they are out to impose their will by any means necessary".

Exactly. They have a credo that dates all the way back to Lenin. If it furthers the cause it is acceptable,...if it doesnt its not. Morals or fair play doesnt even enter into it,...its all about advancing an agenda. Anything goes.