NY AG suing Donnie for fraud

[Into the Night]

Poor trailer dweller

Insult fallacy. No argument presented. Trolling. Bigotry.

[Into the Night]

Trumps in trouble

Chanting. Ya know, after SEVEN YEARS of this, it's amazing you are still chanting this.

[evince]

Trump is in big trouble

[domer76]

1. She's bringing a civil suit, not a pressing criminal charges.
2. You need standing in civil suits. You have to demonstrate you were the party harmed by the person or company you are suing.
3. Her issue is on Trump's taxes and whether he paid them fairly.

Conclusion: That is an issue for NY state's income tax people, not a criminal prosecutor.

A state AG’s office handles both civil and criminal matters.

NY Executive Law 63(12)

12. Whenever any person shall engage in repeated fraudulent or illegal
acts or otherwise demonstrate persistent fraud or illegality in the
carrying on, conducting or transaction of business, the attorney general
may apply, in the name of the people of the state of New York, to the
supreme court of the state of New York, on notice of five days, for an
order enjoining the continuance of such business activity or of any
fraudulent or illegal acts, directing restitution and damages and, in an
appropriate case, cancelling any certificate filed under and by virtue
of the provisions of section four hundred forty of the former penal law
or section one hundred thirty of the general business law, and the court
may award the relief applied for or so much thereof as it may deem
proper. The word "fraud" or "fraudulent" as used herein shall include
any device, scheme or artifice to defraud and any deception,
misrepresentation, concealment, suppression, false pretense, false
promise or unconscionable contractual provisions. The term "persistent
fraud" or "illegality" as used herein shall include continuance or
carrying on of any fraudulent or illegal act or conduct. The term
"repeated" as used herein shall include repetition of any separate and
distinct fraudulent or illegal act, or conduct which affects more than
one person. Notwithstanding any law to the contrary, all monies
recovered or obtained under this subdivision by a state agency or state
official or employee acting in their official capacity shall be subject
to subdivision eleven of section four of the state finance law.

In connection with any such application, the attorney general is
authorized to take proof and make a determination of the relevant facts
and to issue subpoenas in accordance with the civil practice law and
rules. Such authorization shall not abate or terminate by reason of any
action or proceeding brought by the attorney general under this section.

[evince]

She has recommended him for criminal prosecution both by the state and the feds

[Stone]

You gonna kill people for him?

You gonna kill people to start your race war that you will LOSE bigly anyway?

[Stone]

Trump is in big trouble

[Grokmaster]

SO EVERYONE WHO EVER BOUGHT OR SOLD A HOUSE IS "GUILTY" OF THE SAME "CRIME"....

[T. A. Gardner]

A state AG’s office handles both civil and criminal matters.

NY Executive Law 63(12)

12. Whenever any person shall engage in repeated fraudulent or illegal
acts or otherwise demonstrate persistent fraud or illegality in the
carrying on, conducting or transaction of business, the attorney general
may apply, in the name of the people of the state of New York, to the
supreme court of the state of New York, on notice of five days, for an
order enjoining the continuance of such business activity or of any
fraudulent or illegal acts, directing restitution and damages and, in an
appropriate case, cancelling any certificate filed under and by virtue
of the provisions of section four hundred forty of the former penal law
or section one hundred thirty of the general business law, and the court
may award the relief applied for or so much thereof as it may deem
proper. The word "fraud" or "fraudulent" as used herein shall include
any device, scheme or artifice to defraud and any deception,
misrepresentation, concealment, suppression, false pretense, false
promise or unconscionable contractual provisions. The term "persistent
fraud" or "illegality" as used herein shall include continuance or
carrying on of any fraudulent or illegal act or conduct. The term
"repeated" as used herein shall include repetition of any separate and
distinct fraudulent or illegal act, or conduct which affects more than
one person. Notwithstanding any law to the contrary, all monies
recovered or obtained under this subdivision by a state agency or state
official or employee acting in their official capacity shall be subject
to subdivision eleven of section four of the state finance law.

In connection with any such application, the attorney general is
authorized to take proof and make a determination of the relevant facts
and to issue subpoenas in accordance with the civil practice law and
rules. Such authorization shall not abate or terminate by reason of any
action or proceeding brought by the attorney general under this section.

Exactly who did he defraud? If he paid off the loans in full, it doesn't matter one iota what he put on some form about his property or wealth. To be defrauded, the party has to have suffered harm and monetary loss. No loss, no harm.

[domer76]

Exactly who did he defraud? If he paid off the loans in full, it doesn't matter one iota what he put on some form about his property or wealth. To be defrauded, the party has to have suffered harm and monetary loss. No loss, no harm.

Try this. Just go ahead and actually READ the charges brought by the AG.

[LurchAddams]

ROFLMAO.. so a court is no longer a place of due process? When did that happen?

His argument is a strawman one, anyway. James didn't say she was going to "dissolve the corporation". She's just going to try to ban them from doing business in NY.

[LurchAddams]

A state prosecutor suing in civil court is a true rarity. This means that the prosecutor's case is so weak they can't bring criminal charges so they're trying civil charges because the standard of evidence is lower. Seems the incompetents in NY's prosecutor's office is grasping at straws because their TDS got the better of them.

The first question the defense should bring up is Why is the prosecutor's office pursuing a civil lawsuit for tax issues? Isn't this something the state income tax people should be bringing up since they were the ones potentially affected by this?

She's bringing a civil suit because she can use Weasel-berg's "taking the 5th" against him as evidence of trumps' guilt. In a criminal proceeding she couldn't. Also she's referring the case to the IRS. The IRS will want their tax revenue so this will be an easy one for them.

[LurchAddams]

The bitch was the one standing at the podium announcing this weak assed shit.

She's got him dead to rights. She's got the actual numbers. The evidence is irrefutable. If donnie claims a property is 30,000 sq ft and it's only 11,000, it's pretty clear the 30k's a lie.

[domer76]

She's bringing a civil suit because she can use Weasel-berg's "taking the 5th" against him as evidence of trumps' guilt. In a criminal proceeding she couldn't. Also she's referring the case to the IRS. The IRS will want their tax revenue so this will be an easy one for them.

He is trying to equate the office of Attorney General with a prosecutor’s office. Merely more Trumper ignorance.

[LurchAddams]

So, Bourbon, why is a NY state prosecutor who deals in criminal charges bringing a civil suit against Trump for tax issues instead of the state tax bureaucracy? It isn't the prosecutor that suffered potential harm, but the state tax agency. Normally in a civil suit you need standing--eg., you were the party harmed--to bring a suit. It isn't the purview of the prosecutor's office to bring civil tax suits. If she (the prosecutor) has such a weak case she can't bring criminal charges, why didn't she refer this to the tax agency for action?

We know the answer, the prosecutor absolutely hates Trump and is going to try and get him even as she makes an ass out of herself.

As I said in the last post, her case is NOT "weak". She has actual evidence trump cheated. trump's accounting firm dumped him because they won't stand by his numbers.

Again, the case is iron clad, which is the opposite of what you claim. When trump values a property at 10 times the appraised value to get a loan, and James has the appraisal, the evidence is pretty clear.