Ooh, quibbling. LOL Now who's being dishonest, kid?
See, this is the kind of thing that indicates a person's maturity and education: when they say stupid shit and think they can get away with it.
It's much like observing a six-year-old blame an open cookie jar on the dog. They think they're being smart, but they are not. LOL
"Hatred is a failure of imagination" - Graham Greene, "The Power and the Glory"
You didn't specify what you meant by how this "started" . The discussion has spanned two threads. The fact that I clarified what I was responding to does not make me dishonest. If you disagree, feel free to explain how I am dishonest by making it known that I was referencing This Thread and not the other.
I now know that you are talking about the actual beginning.
Yes, I made a snarky comment about the biblical claims of Jesus return. What does that have to do with my utilizing Zen meditation or my integrity?
Doc Dutch (09-11-2022)
This is just another reason why I think you are under 35 as opposed to being a stupid geezer - you seem to lack life experience and maturity of an older adult American male albeit with a distinctly more feminine argumentative style -
You make untrue accusations, then, when called on your hypocrisy, you dance all around the truth without ever trying to hit the mark.
Thanks; the starting point I'd originally hoped this would have begun.
Perhaps I have a different understanding of Zen than you. I see it as a philosophy of aiming to being "in the moment". Human beings, by their nature, cannot help but think about the past or, the smarter ones, the future, but it's always very important to live in the present. The assholes at the Insurrection? They were living in the past...mostly a fantasy of the past, but the past nonetheless. Living in the present while only reflecting upon the past or the future is a Zen lifestyle.
At least in my opinion. Why do you think you are "zen". Saying five Hail Marys and counting rosary beads is meditation. Say the same words in another language and removing the cross doesn't change the fact it's meditation, just like saffron robes or whatever you're doing.
On the specific subject of your snark, like Pastor Martin Niemoller poem is famous for stating, I believe it's important to stand up for everyone's rights in order to more securely protect our own. It also irritated me that you were giving Zen a bad name.
"Hatred is a failure of imagination" - Graham Greene, "The Power and the Glory"
To clarify, the above thoughts are because I was unsure of what "start" you were referring to and called out which one I thought it was, to give you a chance to clarify?
The above paragraphs only show how little you understand meditation/mindfulness/consciousness and makes your accusations of my lack of Zen even more vacuous. You think doing Hail Mary's is meditation? In your entire life, you have never meditated.Thanks; the starting point I'd originally hoped this would have begun.
Perhaps I have a different understanding of Zen than you. I see it as a philosophy of aiming to being "in the moment". Human beings, by their nature, cannot help but think about the past or, the smarter ones, the future, but it's always very important to live in the present. The assholes at the Insurrection? They were living in the past...mostly a fantasy of the past, but the past nonetheless. Living in the present while only reflecting upon the past or the future is a Zen lifestyle.
At least in my opinion. Why do you think you are "zen". Saying five Hail Marys and counting rosary beads is meditation. Say the same words in another language and removing the cross doesn't change the fact it's meditation, just like saffron robes or whatever you're doing.
On the specific subject of your snark, like Pastor Martin Niemoller poem is famous for stating, I believe it's important to stand up for everyone's rights in order to more securely protect our own. It also irritated me that you were giving Zen a bad name.
You've demonstrated repeatedly that you have no clue what "Zen" is, but you're sure I lack it.
BTW, never in my life have I called it Zen and doing so now is only because that is the common term in this conversation, not because I actually want to reinforce your uninformed, simplistic, stereotypical view of what mindfulness actually is.
Your accusations against me are clearly baseless. You appear to be arrogant, narcissistic and prideful, so you won't acknowledge it, but it is true nonetheless.
Zenless's posts keep being deleted. Is it because he does it himself or because they are so crude that a mod does it?
Inquiring people want to know. LOL
Last edited by Doc Dutch; 09-11-2022 at 08:08 PM.
"Hatred is a failure of imagination" - Graham Greene, "The Power and the Glory"
Doc Dutch (09-12-2022)
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