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    Default Trump follies #4: Warrants for Dummies.

    Okay, rather than plow through all the BS being bull horned an parroted by the right wing media hacks & flunkies, here's a simple break down regarding how the search warrant on Dump's Mar-a-Lago residence was obtained and acted upon by the FBI. Mind you, the FBI has a history of doing some heinous crap on American citizens during the Hoover Era (and some similar stuff since then), but when they get it right, they get it right. Props to this woman for taking the time to pablum feed the general public on this subject:


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    All I got outa that was blah, blah, blah tater head's DOJ gets to look through attorney/client/executive privileged information, and Melania's undies drawer. Sleep well America.
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    Well, let's see...

    She fronts off her argument starting around 1 minute in by saying a search warrant must be very specific. This warrant, as has been shown now widespread on the news, allowed the FBI to take any documents they found from the day Trump took office to the day he left. Further, they could then seize any other stuff, documents or anything else, they deemed worth taking that was anywhere near the documents they found and took. The warrant covered the entirety of the massive Mar-a-Lago complex allowing the FBI to enter any building, and search anywhere on the property.

    That is neither specific or narrow, and violates the 4th Amendment.

    Then she claims the FBI didn't want to stand out. This too is a clear lie given photographic evidence from the scene. The agents would have had to have identified themselves and that goes even during the search. Some agents were clearly armed with automatic rifles and in tactical gear. So, she's totally wrong there too.

    She starts in on the Presidential Records Act, but leaves out that Obama took nearly 30 million individual documents from the White House. Bush and Clinton took documents when they left too. That's nothing new, so she is just parroting a canard she heard on some idiot news channel like CNN or MSNBC.

    At 3:30 she brings up the Espionage act. Guess she doesn't know no one has ever been charged and convicted under that act. No one since it passed in 1917.

    Basically, she's an idiot ranting on YouTube about shit she doesn't know shit about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinectes View Post
    All I got outa that was blah, blah, blah tater head's DOJ gets to look through attorney/client/executive privileged information, and Melania's undies drawer. Sleep well America.
    All the reading audience got from your post is that you are either willfully ignorant, genuinely stupid or just another insipidly stubborn MAGA minion on troll patrol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    All the reading audience got from your post is that you are either willfully ignorant, genuinely stupid or just another insipidly stubborn MAGA minion on troll patrol.
    That person is a hate troll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Well, let's see...

    She fronts off her argument starting around 1 minute in by saying a search warrant must be very specific. This warrant, as has been shown now widespread on the news, allowed the FBI to take any documents they found from the day Trump took office to the day he left. Further, they could then seize any other stuff, documents or anything else, they deemed worth taking that was anywhere near the documents they found and took. The warrant covered the entirety of the massive Mar-a-Lago complex allowing the FBI to enter any building, and search anywhere on the property.

    That is neither specific or narrow, and violates the 4th Amendment.

    Then she claims the FBI didn't want to stand out. This too is a clear lie given photographic evidence from the scene. The agents would have had to have identified themselves and that goes even during the search. Some agents were clearly armed with automatic rifles and in tactical gear. So, she's totally wrong there too.

    She starts in on the Presidential Records Act, but leaves out that Obama took nearly 30 million individual documents from the White House. Bush and Clinton took documents when they left too. That's nothing new, so she is just parroting a canard she heard on some idiot news channel like CNN or MSNBC.

    At 3:30 she brings up the Espionage act. Guess she doesn't know no one has ever been charged and convicted under that act. No one since it passed in 1917.

    Basically, she's an idiot ranting on YouTube about shit she doesn't know shit about.
    Well, let's see:

    your first paragraph is a lie that you cannot provide proof beyond parroting a Fox Noise talking point. Since it's the cornerstone of your response, I'll let the readers see your distorted folly by presenting the original warrant:

    https://www.npr.org/2022/08/12/11172...ar-a-lago-home
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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Well, let's see...

    She fronts off her argument starting around 1 minute in by saying a search warrant must be very specific. This warrant, as has been shown now widespread on the news, allowed the FBI to take any documents they found from the day Trump took office to the day he left. Further, they could then seize any other stuff, documents or anything else, they deemed worth taking that was anywhere near the documents they found and took. The warrant covered the entirety of the massive Mar-a-Lago complex allowing the FBI to enter any building, and search anywhere on the property.

    That is neither specific or narrow, and violates the 4th Amendment.

    Then she claims the FBI didn't want to stand out. This too is a clear lie given photographic evidence from the scene. The agents would have had to have identified themselves and that goes even during the search. Some agents were clearly armed with automatic rifles and in tactical gear. So, she's totally wrong there too.

    She starts in on the Presidential Records Act, but leaves out that Obama took nearly 30 million individual documents from the White House. Bush and Clinton took documents when they left too. That's nothing new, so she is just parroting a canard she heard on some idiot news channel like CNN or MSNBC.

    At 3:30 she brings up the Espionage act. Guess she doesn't know no one has ever been charged and convicted under that act. No one since it passed in 1917.

    Basically, she's an idiot ranting on YouTube about shit she doesn't know shit about.
    In addition to Post #6, there's this:

    https://www.kesslerlawfirm.com/blog/...arch-warrants/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    Okay, rather than plow through all the BS being bull horned an parroted by the right wing media hacks & flunkies, here's a simple break down regarding how the search warrant on Dump's Mar-a-Lago residence was obtained and acted upon by the FBI. Mind you, the FBI has a history of doing some heinous crap on American citizens during the Hoover Era (and some similar stuff since then), but when they get it right, they get it right. Props to this woman for taking the time to pablum feed the general public on this subject:


    I wonder if the MAGA crowd who watched this caught the part about "planting" evidence... that the FBI doesn't have access to top-secret national security info to "plant."


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    nothing but another hate filled liberal who likes to think they know the law, but clearly doesn't understand how politics work.
    In a combat situation it is about 16 times better to do something useful and violent right away than to wait and figure out something even more useful and violent later.
    “whenever you put your faith in big government for any reason, sooner or later you end up an apologist for mass murder.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    nothing but another hate filled liberal who likes to think they know the law, but clearly doesn't understand how politics work.
    You have to follow the laws of this nation

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    I wonder if the MAGA crowd who watched this caught the part about "planting" evidence... that the FBI doesn't have access to top-secret national security info to "plant."
    Great point

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    You have to follow the laws of this nation
    when elected officials, or appointed officials, don't have to follow the law, neither do I.
    In a combat situation it is about 16 times better to do something useful and violent right away than to wait and figure out something even more useful and violent later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    when elected officials, or appointed officials, don't have to follow the law, neither do I.
    And if you decide that based on your deluded mind it won’t work out for you



    Don’t get your neighbors killed nutter

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    I wonder if the MAGA crowd who watched this caught the part about "planting" evidence... that the FBI doesn't have access to top-secret national security info to "plant."
    Read the response from TA Gardner and Callinectes, and you have your answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    And if you decide that based on your deluded mind it won’t work out for you



    Don’t get your neighbors killed nutter
    I see you're responding to the little shit....his flabby ass wasn't in DC on Jan. 6th, was it? Nope, he dumped his icon, disappeared for a week or so, and then came back throwing his Oather buddies under the bus. Yet he's STILL talking smack like his words are worth anything. Pathetic troll that he is.
    During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

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