Reply With QuoteGuno צְבִי (08-16-2022)
Honoring my oath
Sounds fishy alright but I doubt he crossed the line enough to warrant prosecution.Originally Posted by evince
"What I heard was basically discussions about absentee ballots, and if a - potentially - if there was a percentage of signatures that weren't really, truly matching, is there some point when you get to where you can say, if somebody went to the courtroom, could say, 'Let’s throw out all these ballots because we have no way of knowing because the ballots are separate.' And that was part partially what was going on," Sterling said. "I could see how Sen. Graham viewed it one way and Secretary Raffensperger viewed it one way. But, you know, our job in this state has to follow the law and follow the process as we continue to do. There's no physical ability for this office to do anything along those lines."
Raffensperger told the Post he’s faced rising pressure from fellow Republicans who want to see Democrat Joe Biden’s narrow lead in the state reversed. Nearly 5 million votes were cast in the presidential election in Georgia, and Biden was leading President Donald Trump by about 14,000 votes. His comments came as election officials across the state were working to complete a hand recount of votes in the presidential race.
When Georgia voters return an absentee ballot, they have to sign an oath on an outer envelope. County election office workers are required to ensure the signature matches the one on the absentee ballot application and the one in the voter registration system, Raffensperger said in a statement over the weekend.
"Hatred is a failure of imagination" - Graham Greene, "The Power and the Glory"
Guno צְבִי (08-16-2022)
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He tried to help steal an election
Prison is where he belongs
Honoring my oath
Hillary violated classified material protocols, but she was smart enough to know how wide the line was. Same for Lindsey. My guess is he'll be fine. Rudy and the rest of Team Crazy not so much.
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Peterson is going through some mental problems causing him to self harm. He "sees" things that sane people do not.
Daniel Patrick Moynihan said it best, "You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts."
Paul Begala, "Politics is show business for ugly people."
Stephen Colbert, "Reality has a well known liberal bias."
trump is a child rapist. We all know it.
Guno צְבִי (08-16-2022)
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You cannot argue that in court, because passports are the property of the US Government. The US Government cannot be accused of seizing their own property.
They have returned the passports immediately, and passports are not needed to leave the country. They are needed to return to the USA.
The warrant gave them access to the passports, but the property laws gave them the right to take the passports. The passports belong to the US Government, so the US Government may do whatever they want with them. trump should be grateful that they were returned promptly, because the US Government has no obligation to do so with their property.
Not his property, so there is no legal argument here. The US Government took their property, and then gave him back their property. There is no legal doubt here.
The passports were not revoked.
https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-2...A/section-51.7A passport at all times remains the property of the United States and must be returned to the U.S. Government upon demand.
Last edited by Walt; 08-16-2022 at 12:53 PM.
Daniel Patrick Moynihan said it best, "You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts."
Paul Begala, "Politics is show business for ugly people."
Stephen Colbert, "Reality has a well known liberal bias."
trump is a child rapist. We all know it.
Guno צְבִי (08-16-2022)
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Yes, the FBI returned it as quickly as they could. trump had nearly 2 years to return the documents. There is a point where it is no longer an "accident".
Daniel Patrick Moynihan said it best, "You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts."
Paul Begala, "Politics is show business for ugly people."
Stephen Colbert, "Reality has a well known liberal bias."
trump is a child rapist. We all know it.
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There is a process to take a passport back, and that requires a legal hearing and due process. Law enforcement cannot take one gratuitously as part of a search warrant unless they have good reason to believe it was part of some criminal activity, which in this case it clearly wasn't.
Wrong! You need one to enter another nation. In fact, some countries are pretty pedantic about it. Ever enter Japan? They photograph you separately from checking your passport, and you have to fill out several forms. They want a blank page in your passport too, or they won't accept it.They have returned the passports immediately, and passports are not needed to leave the country. They are needed to return to the USA.
No, it didn't any more than it did for them to rifle through Meliana's wardrobe.The warrant gave them access to the passports, but the property laws gave them the right to take the passports. The passports belong to the US Government, so the US Government may do whatever they want with them. trump should be grateful that they were returned promptly, because the US Government has no obligation to do so with their property.
The "US Government" wasn't the legal agency searching, the FBI was. There are laws and regulations about making searches. The reason the DoJ doesn't want the affidavit released is because it almost certainly contains stuff that is damning to their case and the issuance of that warrant. If there wasn't, they wouldn't had specifically sought out a Trump hating magistrate of low level to go through for this warrant. They could have gotten it from a federal judge if it were on the up and up.Not his property, so there is no legal argument here. The US Government took their property, and then gave him back their property. There is no legal doubt here.
If you don't have it in your hand, you can't use it. That requires a hearing and a legal reason to take it from someone. Normally this is done in criminal hearings where the person is a flight risk.The passports were not revoked.
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On demand means that they just have to demand it, and you have to hand it over. I have been through that process a hundred times. They demand it, and I hand it over. There is no hearing. Due process is any officer of the government demanding it. It belongs to the US Government, so it would take due process not to present it on demand... Not the reverse.
Starting about 20 years ago, you needed a passport to enter the USA. Before that, you could enter the USA with just a drivers license, or some other piece of ID. It was not always easy, but it was possible. Many other countries have not started enforcing such severe rules.
The FBI is part of the US Government, so is allowed to take possession of US Government property.
They had that covered with their search warrant.
Daniel Patrick Moynihan said it best, "You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts."
Paul Begala, "Politics is show business for ugly people."
Stephen Colbert, "Reality has a well known liberal bias."
trump is a child rapist. We all know it.
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THE DEMTHUG GESTAPO HAS RETURNED THE PAASPORTS THEY HAD NO RIGHT TAKING, DUMBFUCK LEFTIDIOTS.
TRY TO KEEP UP
TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..
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DeadHead
DOJ says his passports were stuffed in a drawer in his desk along with top secret government documents.
They temporarily confiscated the passports and contents of the drawer because they are evidence. Evidence that Trump knew he had top secret docunents in his possession, that he knew they were improperly secured, and that was reviewing them. With this evidence, Trump can't blame his staff for misplacing government secrets.
Truthmatters
He was preparing to sell access to them
We all know he would sell anything for money and power
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So where are the Nuclear codes idiot.
IMPEACH 46 FOR TREASON
Biden/Harris 2024
IT'S A NO BRAINER!
Truthmatters
Safe from trump now huh you shitty Russo bot hole
Start your race war
See how quick you get dead
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