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    Default The far right is calling for civil war after the FBI raid on Trump's home. Experts sa

    The far right is calling for civil war after the FBI raid on Trump's home. Experts say that fight wouldn't look like the last one

    Any of you Trump wipes want a civil war after raid on Trump home or any other grievances? Would you die for Trump?


    • Some on the far right have been calling for civil war since an FBI raid on Trump's Florida home.
    • Some experts say the warning signs for civil war have been emerging in the US in recent years.
    • But they also say that such a conflict would look very different from the Civil War of the 1860s.

    In the wake of an FBI search of former President Donald Trump's Florida home, some far-right figures have been spreading violent rhetoric online — including calls for war.

    The Republican party has long portrayed itself as the defender of "law and order," but the aftermath of the raid has seen GOP lawmakers like Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene call for defunding the FBI.

    Greene has also made references to

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Blow them away the second they move on it
    you're one of those wimpy fucks who would SCREAM for the government to violate posse comitatus and have the military take over, aren't you? you don't care about the law, you don't care about order, you don't care about justice.....you only care about YOU
    In a combat situation it is about 16 times better to do something useful and violent right away than to wait and figure out something even more useful and violent later.
    “whenever you put your faith in big government for any reason, sooner or later you end up an apologist for mass murder.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    you're one of those wimpy fucks who would SCREAM for the government to violate posse comitatus and have the military take over, aren't you? you don't care about the law, you don't care about order, you don't care about justice.....you only care about YOU
    Scream?


    I’m calmly telling you



    That you will get dead if you try a race war

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Scream?

    I’m calmly telling you

    That you will get dead if you try a race war
    please, you're a screaming lunatic racist who doesn't have the faintest idea of the bad that's going to happen. when it does, you WILL end up pissing your panties because nobody is going to be there to help you. you will be on your own. good luck
    In a combat situation it is about 16 times better to do something useful and violent right away than to wait and figure out something even more useful and violent later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by signalmankenneth View Post
    The far right is calling for civil war after the FBI raid on Trump's home. Experts say that fight wouldn't look like the last one

    Any of you Trump wipes want a civil war after raid on Trump home or any other grievances? Would you die for Trump?


    • Some on the far right have been calling for civil war since an FBI raid on Trump's Florida home.
    • Some experts say the warning signs for civil war have been emerging in the US in recent years.
    • But they also say that such a conflict would look very different from the Civil War of the 1860s.

    In the wake of an FBI search of former President Donald Trump's Florida home, some far-right figures have been spreading violent rhetoric online — including calls for war.

    The Republican party has long portrayed itself as the defender of "law and order," but the aftermath of the raid has seen GOP lawmakers like Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene call for defunding the FBI.

    Greene has also made references to
    Time for them to be treated like the terrorists they are. Same with BLM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gondwanaland View Post
    Time for them to be treated like the terrorists they are. Same with BLM.
    you have your hiding place all set up?
    In a combat situation it is about 16 times better to do something useful and violent right away than to wait and figure out something even more useful and violent later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    you're one of those wimpy fucks who would SCREAM for the government to violate posse comitatus and have the military take over, aren't you? you don't care about the law, you don't care about order, you don't care about justice.....you only care about YOU
    oh, honeypie, it ain't the government that the far right loons have to worry about. It's us sane Americans who own weapons for defense against fascists like yourself, whether you're in the government or doing terrorism like your friend tried the other day. You try a civil war in my neck of the woods, and you're my friends Mr. Smith and Mr. Wesson are the last people you'll ever meet.

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    The Navy record did not list any individual awards for Shiffer. He left the service in 2003 as a noncommissioned officer.

    Shiffer later served for three years in the Florida National Guard as an infantryman, said Catalina Carrasco, a spokesperson for the National Guard Bureau. He was honorably discharged in 2011.

    Shiffer was shot by police after fleeing the FBI building and leading officers on a chase that led to a six-hour standoff on a rural road, the Ohio State Highway Patrol said in a news release. After negotiations failed, police attempted to utilize "less lethal tactics" to arrest Shiffer, but he "raised a firearm" and officers shot him, they said.

    Shiffer died at the scene. Authorities are investigating a possible motive, in addition to Shiffer's possible ties to extremist groups, a law enforcement official familiar with the investigation said. His name is used on several social media platforms by an individual who spoke about being at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, and urging a "call to arms" after the FBI executed a search warrant at former president Donald Trump's Florida estate on Monday.

    Since the search, threats of violence against the FBI from Trump supporters online have increased, and Republicans have intensified criticism of the agency.

    Shiffer was the oldest of four siblings and grew up on a farm in Perry County in Central Pennsylvania, near the Susquehanna River. His father worked as a farmer and diesel mechanic, and his mother as an insurance company employee, said a family member who did not want to give his name due to the sensitivity of the matter.


    The relative remembered Shiffer as a "very intelligent but quiet person."

    "He had quite a memory on him," the family member said. "It was full of facts and information when he would talk about something. He knew a lot about farm equipment."

    The Shiffers had a small family farm with just a few animals - pigs and a cow - that they would occasionally butcher and offer as meat to family members. Shiffer left the farm shortly after he graduated from high school to enlist in the Navy, the relative said.

    "He was quiet, maybe a little awkward, but you could tell he was a very smart kid. He had some brainpower," the family member said.


    Around 9:15 a.m. Thursday, Shiffer attempted to breach the visitor screening facility at the field office, located on the outskirts of Cincinnati, authorities said. An alarm sounded and armed agents responded, leading Shiffer to flee to his car and onto Interstate 71.

    Roughly 20 minutes later, a state trooper located Shiffer's car at a rest area about 20 miles north, but when officers tried to pull him over, he fled and fired a "suspected gun shot," the highway patrol said in its statement Friday morning. He continued north before stopping on a rural road in Chester Township, about 45 miles north of Cincinnati.

    He stepped out of the car at about 9:53 a.m. and engaged police in a shootout before taking cover behind the car, launching a standoff that would last until officers shot him around 3:42 p.m., police said.

    In a statement Thursday evening, the FBI's Cincinnati field office called the incident an "agent-involved shooting." State police said they are investigating the incident alongside the Ohio Bureau of Criminal Investigation and the FBI.

    "The FBI takes all shooting incidents involving our agents or task force members seriously," the statement said. "In accordance with FBI policy, the shooting incident is under investigation by the FBI's Inspection Division."

    On Truth Social, a site started by Trump, an account with Shiffer's name published a post after the FBI search at Mar-a-Lago telling others to "get whatever you need to be ready for combat." On Thursday at 9:30 a.m., he wrote another post that seemed to indicate he was writing after attempting to enter the FBI building.

    "Well, I thought I had a way through bullet proof glass, and I didn't," he wrote. "If you don't hear from me, it is true I tried attacking the F.B.I., and it'll mean either I was taken off the internet, the F.B.I. got me, or they sent the regular cops."

    The Post was unable to confirm that the account belonged to Shiffer.

    Experts in extremism and domestic terrorism have warned that violent rhetoric from Republican lawmakers, pro-Trump media figures and anti-government agitators could fuel attacks like the attempted breach of the FBI field office.

    "We are likely to see continued acts of violence and attacks," said Ruth Ben-Ghiat, a New York University professor who studies authoritarianism and political violence.

    "There is a vast right-wing media and messaging universe, from Fox News to Breitbart to former president Trump to sitting GOP lawmakers like Marjorie Taylor Greene," Ben-Ghiat added, "that traffics in conspiracy theories and seeks to keep people in a state of agitation and fear sufficient to lead some people to make recourse to

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gondwanaland View Post
    oh, honeypie, it ain't the government that the far right loons have to worry about. It's us sane Americans who own weapons for defense against fascists like yourself, whether you're in the government or doing terrorism like your friend tried the other day. You try a civil war in my neck of the woods, and you're my friends Mr. Smith and Mr. Wesson are the last people you'll ever meet.
    The cops and national guard along with the FBI WILL TAKE THEM OUT

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    you have your hiding place all set up?
    You mean the part where we stand on your grave and hock lugies

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gondwanaland View Post
    oh, honeypie, it ain't the government that the far right loons have to worry about. It's us sane Americans who own weapons for defense against fascists like yourself, whether you're in the government or doing terrorism like your friend tried the other day. You try a civil war in my neck of the woods, and you're my friends Mr. Smith and Mr. Wesson are the last people you'll ever meet.
    ROFLMAO!!!!!!! you THINK you're going to do that........and I don't doubt you believe it. but 1, you're not sane. 2, you THINK your opponents are just the 'fascist' right............you haven't seen the force that will finally be tired of your leftie/rightie bullshit and the real patriots of this country decide to do away with your traitorous and racist bullshit.
    In a combat situation it is about 16 times better to do something useful and violent right away than to wait and figure out something even more useful and violent later.
    “whenever you put your faith in big government for any reason, sooner or later you end up an apologist for mass murder.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    you have your hiding place all set up?
    No hun, I'm very well locked and loaded as a firearms collector. I can even give you a variety of experiences, from a range of time periods ranging from pre-revolutionary war to WWI to Vietnam to present day as the lead fills your traitorous little head.

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