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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    I doubt they’re going to reveal the snitch anytime soon. But I suspect Melania would love to see Trump serving 25 to life
    A federal law enforcement source tells Fox News' Jacqui Heinrich that it's "very likely" the information that gave the FBI probable cause to search former President Donald Trump's estate came from a Secret Service member.
    https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/pr...ago-house-news

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    A federal law enforcement source tells Fox News' Jacqui Heinrich that it's "very likely" the information that gave the FBI probable cause to search former President Donald Trump's estate came from a Secret Service member.
    https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/pr...ago-house-news
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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    My bet is, Garland has realized he, the DoJ, and FBI have screwed the pooch on how they went about this raid. Now Garland is scrambling to try and put a fig leaf of credibility on it. If that weren't the case, the warrant wouldn't have been sealed in the first place. The operation wouldn't have been a surprise raid like it was.

    If Garland, the DoJ, and FBI can't convince the public-at-large that the raid was on the up and up, they just handed Trump and his wing of the Republican party a huge issue that will cause them to turn out in larger numbers in November. For the Leftists here, that's the reality of this, like it or not.
    Nah, Garland is responding to the unrelenting attacks on the FBI, attacks generated without even seeing the evidence the Justice Dept bought before the Judge. Plus, as Wray confirmed yesterday, potential attacks on FBI employees

    Are many warrants made public when they involve ongoing investigations? And Trump should have known this was coming given he was issued a subpoena requesting the same material last May

    And once again you are framing consequences even before the facts come out

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    Need to see affidavit. The search warrant affidavit has to be specific not only about the place to be searched, but this purported evidence or criminal activity that forms the basis for the search request. Police can seize only what is described in the warrant, pursuant to the underlying affidavit.
    That is untrue, police look up the plain sight concept of search warrants, if they see ANYTHING that is evidence of a crime... They can take it. You are so ignorant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    A federal law enforcement source tells Fox News' Jacqui Heinrich that it's "very likely" the information that gave the FBI probable cause to search former President Donald Trump's estate came from a Secret Service member.
    https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/pr...ago-house-news
    Sounds likely to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    Need to see affidavit. The search warrant affidavit has to be specific not only about the place to be searched, but this purported evidence or criminal activity that forms the basis for the search request. Police can seize only what is described in the warrant, pursuant to the underlying affidavit.
    Is that what they are saying on alt right media?
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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    A federal law enforcement source tells Fox News' Jacqui Heinrich that it's "very likely" the information that gave the FBI probable cause to search former President Donald Trump's estate came from a Secret Service member.
    https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/pr...ago-house-news
    Good for them

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    My bet is, Garland has realized he, the DoJ, and FBI have screwed the pooch on how they went about this raid. Now Garland is scrambling to try and put a fig leaf of credibility on it. If that weren't the case, the warrant wouldn't have been sealed in the first place. The operation wouldn't have been a surprise raid like it was.

    If Garland, the DoJ, and FBI can't convince the public-at-large that the raid was on the up and up, they just handed Trump and his wing of the Republican party a huge issue that will cause them to turn out in larger numbers in November. For the Leftists here, that's the reality of this, like it or not.
    The problem with your bet is you have picked a sure loser. The documents and items were subpoenaed from Trump in June and he failed to turn them over. That means Trump is the one that screwed the pooch. Now it will be interesting to see what crimes were listed in the warrant. The warrant was sealed because all search warrants are sealed. It is the standard for law enforcement. The person on who the search warrant is served can reveal it but law enforcement doesn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    So much for the alt right theory that the Justice Department would try to hide it.
    Just who's theory was that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    Need to see affidavit. The search warrant affidavit has to be specific not only about the place to be searched, but this purported evidence or criminal activity that forms the basis for the search request. Police can seize only what is described in the warrant, pursuant to the underlying affidavit.
    Starting the back tracking already, I see.
    How long before you ask to see the birth certificate of the informant so you can confirm they weren't in the country illegally?
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    Hahahahaha, in the motion Garland says that the document should be unsealed unless Trump objects!!!!!

    Will Trump object?

    https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-ne...rks/index.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    A federal law enforcement source tells Fox News' Jacqui Heinrich that it's "very likely" the information that gave the FBI probable cause to search former President Donald Trump's estate came from a Secret Service member.
    https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/pr...ago-house-news
    Which would be interesting since Secret Service are sworn to uphold the law. If they saw something, maybe they felt a duty to say something.
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    UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
    SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA
    CASE NO. 22-MJ-8332-BER

    IN RE SEALED SEARCH WARRANT
    ________________________________/
    UNITED STATES’ MOTION TO UNSEAL LIMITED WARRANT MATERIALS
    On August 8, 2022, the Department of Justice executed a search warrant, issued by
    this Court upon the requisite finding of probable cause, see Fed. R. Crim. P. 41(c)(1)-(2), at
    the premises located at 1100 S. Ocean Blvd., Palm Beach, Florida 33480, a property of former
    President Donald J. Trump.
    At the time the warrant was initially executed, the Department provided notice directly
    to former President Trump’s counsel. The Department did not make any public statements
    about the search, and the search apparently attracted little or no public attention as it was
    taking place. Later that same day, former President Trump issued a public statement
    acknowledging the execution of the warrant. In the days since, the search warrant and related
    materials have been the subject of significant interest and attention from news media
    organizations and other entities.
    In these circumstances involving a search of the residence of a former President, the
    government hereby requests that the Court unseal the Notice of Filing and its attachment
    (Docket Entry 17), absent objection by former President Trump. The attachment to that
    Notice consists of:
    • The search warrant signed and approved by the Court on August 5, 2022, including
    Attachments A and B; and

    Case 9:22-mj-08332-BER Document 18 Entered on FLSD Docket 08/11/2022 Page 1 of 5

    2

    • The redacted Property Receipt listing items seized pursuant to the search, filed with
    the Court on August 11, 2022.
    1

    The government will respond to the direction of the Court to provide further briefing as to
    additional entries on the docket, pursuant to the schedule set by the Court.
    Consistent with standard practice in this Court, the search warrant and attachments
    were each filed under seal in Case No. 22-mj-8332-BER prior to the search; the Property
    Receipt was filed under seal today. Former President Trump, through counsel, was provided
    copies of each of these documents on August 8, 2022, as part of the execution of the search.

    Argument

    In These Circumstances, the Court Should Unseal the Search Warrant, Including
    Attachments A and B, and the Property Receipt, Absent Objection from the Former
    President.
    The press and the public enjoy a qualified right of access to criminal and judicial
    proceedings and the judicial records filed therein. See, e.g., Romero v. Drummond Co., Inc., 480
    F.3d 1234, 1245 (11th Cir. 2007); Chicago Tribune Co. v. Bridgestone/Firestone, Inc., 263 F.3d
    1304, 1311 (11th Cir. 2001). The unsealing of judicial materials pursuant to the common-law
    right of access “requires a balancing of competing interests.” Chicago Tribune Co., 263 F.3d at
    1311. “In balancing the public interest in accessing court documents against a party’s interest
    in keeping the information confidential, courts consider, among other factors, whether
    allowing access would impair court functions or harm legitimate privacy interests, the degree
    of and likelihood of injury if made public, the reliability of the information, whether there will

    1 The redactions in Docket Entry 17 remove the names of law enforcement personnel who executed
    the search from the unsealed materials. For ease of reference, the documents the government seeks
    to unseal, in the form to be made available to the public, have been filed under seal as Docket Entry
    Number 17.
    Case 9:22-mj-08332-BER Document 18 Entered on FLSD Docket 08/11/2022 Page 2 of 5

    3

    be an opportunity to respond to the information, whether the information concerns public
    officials or public concerns, and the availability of a less onerous alternative to sealing the
    documents.” Romero, 480 F.3d at 1246.
    2
    Given the intense public interest presented by a
    search of a residence of a former President, the government believes these factors favor
    unsealing the search warrant, its accompanying Attachments A and B, and the Property
    Receipt, absent objection from the former President.
    Although the government initially asked, and this Court agreed, to file the warrant and
    Attachments A and B under seal, releasing those documents at this time would not “impair
    court functions,” including the government’s ability to execute the warrant, given that the
    warrant has already been executed. See Romero, 480 F.3d at 1246. Furthermore, on the day
    that the search was executed, former President Trump issued a public statement that provided
    the first public confirmation that the search had occurred. Subsequently, the former
    President’s representatives have given additional statements to the press concerning the
    search, including public characterizations of the materials sought. See, e.g., F.B.I Search of
    Trump’s Home Pushes Long Conflict Into Public View, N.Y. Times (Aug. 9, 2022), available at
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/09/u...rch-trump.html (“Christina Bobb, a
    lawyer and aide to Mr. Trump who said she received a copy of the search warrant, told one
    interviewer that the agents were looking for ‘presidential records or any possibly classified
    material.’”). As such, the occurrence of the search and indications of the subject matter
    involved are already public.

    2 In addition, the First Amendment provides a basis for the press and the public’s “right of access to
    criminal trial proceedings.” Chicago Tribune Co., 263 F.3d at 1310. However, this Circuit has not
    addressed whether the First Amendment right of access applies to sealed search warrant materials.
    See, e.g., Bennett v. United States, No. 12-61499-CIV, 2013 WL 3821625, at *3 (S.D. Fla. July 23, 2023)
    (“this Court has found no Eleventh Circuit decisions addressing whether a First Amendment right of
    access extends to sealed search-warrant affidavits, particularly at the preindictment stage”).
    Case 9:22-mj-08332-BER Document 18 Entered on FLSD Docket 08/11/2022 Page 3 of 5

    4

    This matter plainly “concerns public officials or public concerns,” Romero, 480 F.3d at
    1246, as it involves a law enforcement action taken at the property of the 45th President of
    the United States. The public’s clear and powerful interest in understanding what occurred
    under these circumstances weighs heavily in favor of unsealing. That said, the former
    President should have an opportunity to respond to this Motion and lodge objections,
    including with regards to any “legitimate privacy interests” or the potential for other “injury”
    if these materials are made public. Romero, 480 F.3d at 1246. To that end, the government
    will furnish counsel for the former President with a copy of this Motion.

    Conclusion

    This Court should unseal Docket Entry 17, subject to the presentation of
    countervailing interests by former President Trump. A proposed Order is attached herein.

    Respectfully submitted,
    /s Juan Antonio Gonzalez
    JUAN ANTONIO GONZALEZ
    UNITED STATES ATTORNEY
    Florida Bar No. 897388
    99 NE 4th Street, 8th Floor
    Miami, Fl 33132
    Tel: 305-961-9001
    Email: juan.antonio.gonzalez@usdoj.gov

    /s/Jay I. Bratt
    JAY I. BRATT
    CHIEF
    Counterintelligence and Export Control
    Section
    National Security Division
    950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
    Washington, D.C. 20530
    Illinois Bar No. 6187361
    202.233.0986
    jay.bratt2@usdoj.gov

    Case 9:22-mj-08332-BER Document 18 Entered on FLSD Docket 08/11/2022 Page 4 of 5

    5
    Certificate of Service

    I HEREBY CERTIFY that I caused the attached document to be electronically
    transmitted to the Clerk’s Office using the CM/ECF system for filing.

    /s Juan Antonio Gonzalez
    Juan Antonio Gonzalez
    United States Attorney
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Which would be interesting since Secret Service are sworn to uphold the law. If they saw something, maybe they felt a duty to say something.
    Uh, if they saw something they HAD a duty to say something.
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