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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    If that weren't the case, the warrant wouldn't have been sealed in the first place.
    All warrants start out under seal. Most warrants remain under seal. The Justice Department wants to release it, because it helps them.

    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    The operation wouldn't have been a surprise raid like it was.
    If a warrant is not served by surprise, it gives the criminal time to move, or destroy the evidence.
    Daniel Patrick Moynihan said it best, "You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts."
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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    What we have been waiting for. Garland ordered the raid on Trump. Game on!
    Garland is a stone cold killer, he waited until all the pundits and all the Trumper’s made fools of themselves. He waited to give trump enough time to release the warrant himself, then he pounced.
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    18 U.S. Code § 2071 - Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally
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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    First you lied and said that trump was never given a copy of the warrant.When in fact, his lawyer was present the whole day. Secondly, if trump was in the right he should have been happy to release his copy of the warrant. Now we will see what they were looking for and exactly why.
    Then explain to us why Trump never returned these items despite several attempts.
    If Garland had not waited until everyone made a fool of themselves, Trump would be crying about how Garland is seeking publicity by releasing the warrant!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Garland is a stone cold killer, he waited until all the pundits and all the Trumper’s made fools of themselves. He waited to give trump enough time to release the warrant himself, then he pounced.
    It looks like he was pissed that Republicans were having murder fantasies about FBI agents, and he wanted to make it clear the buck stopped with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Garland is a stone cold killer, he waited until all the pundits and all the Trumper’s made fools of themselves. He waited to give trump enough time to release the warrant himself, then he pounced.
    Yes. Trump will lose the fight against the US Department of Justice. Lose bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    My bet is, Garland has realized he, the DoJ, and FBI have screwed the pooch on how they went about this raid. Now Garland is scrambling to try and put a fig leaf of credibility on it. If that weren't the case, the warrant wouldn't have been sealed in the first place. The operation wouldn't have been a surprise raid like it was.

    If Garland, the DoJ, and FBI can't convince the public-at-large that the raid was on the up and up, they just handed Trump and his wing of the Republican party a huge issue that will cause them to turn out in larger numbers in November. For the Leftists here, that's the reality of this, like it or not.
    Federal warrants are always sealed until someone asks for them to be unsealed. They are never unsealed before the search. Trump has had two days to release the warrant, he refused to do so despite many calls for him to do it. Garland waited a respectful amount of time and is now asking to have it unsealed. And he asked earlier, everyone with claim he was grandstanding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    The Justice Department moves to un-seal the warrant.


    Trump did not want it out or he would’ve put it out. He fucked up!
    Need to see affidavit. The search warrant affidavit has to be specific not only about the place to be searched, but this purported evidence or criminal activity that forms the basis for the search request. Police can seize only what is described in the warrant, pursuant to the underlying affidavit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    It looks like he was pissed that Republicans were having murder fantasies about FBI agents, and he wanted to make it clear the buck stopped with him.
    Yes. I think he was sincere about defending the integrity of FBI agents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    Need to see affidavit. The search warrant affidavit has to be specific not only about the place to be searched, but this purported evidence or criminal activity that forms the basis for the search request. Police can seize only what is described in the warrant, pursuant to the underlying affidavit.
    Yes, god forbid Mr. Trump ever varied from the letter of the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    My bet is, Garland has realized he, the DoJ, and FBI have screwed the pooch on how they went about this raid. Now Garland is scrambling to try and put a fig leaf of credibility on it. If that weren't the case, the warrant wouldn't have been sealed in the first place. The operation wouldn't have been a surprise raid like it was.

    If Garland, the DoJ, and FBI can't convince the public-at-large that the raid was on the up and up, they just handed Trump and his wing of the Republican party a huge issue that will cause them to turn out in larger numbers in November. For the Leftists here, that's the reality of this, like it or not.
    What kind of reasoning is the above??

    The warrant was sealed and the raid "a surprise" because DOJ concluded Trump couldn't be trusted. The department tried other means to get back the documents - Garland mentioned that - but Trump continued to keep them.
    Now DOJ is asking the court to unseal the warrant and inviting Trump to oppose its revealing at the hearing. So we'll see which of them, if either. doesn't want the public to know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    My bet is, Garland has realized he, the DoJ, and FBI have screwed the pooch on how they went about this raid. Now Garland is scrambling to try and put a fig leaf of credibility on it. If that weren't the case, the warrant wouldn't have been sealed in the first place. The operation wouldn't have been a surprise raid like it was.

    If Garland, the DoJ, and FBI can't convince the public-at-large that the raid was on the up and up, they just handed Trump and his wing of the Republican party a huge issue that will cause them to turn out in larger numbers in November. For the Leftists here, that's the reality of this, like it or not.
    Apparently Trump has got a copy of the warrant, So why isn't Trump making the warrant public if this would exonerate him??????????????????
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    Mira Largo no doubt has security tapes


    Trumps lawyer with them the whole time


    No shred of evidence something was planted


    You can count on that everyone elected who claimed American officers were planting evidence fear what the FBI found

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I would like to know if Melania is the snitch who ratted out Trump to the FBI.

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