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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    You are wrong...

    A good portion of the US population questions the use of:

    All mail-in balloting
    Same day voter registration
    Automatic voter registration upon getting a driver's license
    Registering 16 and 17-year-olds to vote and then saying they can't until they're 18
    Using ballot drop boxes
    No voter ID requirements
    No purging of voter rolls
    Not allowing poll watchers free access to observe the process

    Those are all questionable practices, and there are more. I'll say it again: If questionable practices are used in an election, then the election is questionable. If you want elections to not be questioned, eliminate questionable practices to the greatest extent possible.
    Only Trump liars question the election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    You are wrong...

    A good portion of the US population questions the use of:

    All mail-in balloting
    Same day voter registration
    Automatic voter registration upon getting a driver's license
    Registering 16 and 17-year-olds to vote and then saying they can't until they're 18
    Using ballot drop boxes
    No voter ID requirements
    No purging of voter rolls
    Not allowing poll watchers free access to observe the process

    Those are all questionable practices, and there are more. I'll say it again: If questionable practices are used in an election, then the election is questionable. If you want elections to not be questioned, eliminate questionable practices to the greatest extent possible.
    Just exactly what I mean, all made up bullshit to retain power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    She wasn't taking about Cuba.

    She literally said she was talking about free nations

    When Russia had it's first free and fair election in 1917, the Bolsheviks lost decisively and decided they didn't like the result. So they forcibly disbanded the Constituent Assembly, Russia's first truly democratic legislature.
    No, the Bolsheviks held a violent revolution and installed a dictatorship. Same in Cuba. Voting in places like Venezuela, Nicaragua, or Mexico have long had questionable practices in place meant to keep the establishment / dictatorship in power. Those are the valid examples. A free nation won't be for long if its election process is riddled with questionable practices and means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    Just exactly what I mean, all made up bullshit to retain power.
    Are you saying none of that is questionable? That it is all unquestionable and valid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    No, the Bolsheviks held a violent revolution and installed a dictatorship. Same in Cuba. Voting in places like Venezuela, Nicaragua, or Mexico have long had questionable practices in place meant to keep the establishment / dictatorship in power. Those are the valid examples. A free nation won't be for long if its election process is riddled with questionable practices and means.
    Our practices only become questionable after trump loses an election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Are you saying none of that is questionable? That it is all unquestionable and valid?
    A totally honest election. Cant say its 100% perfect, never can be, but as good or better than any time in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    No, the Bolsheviks held a violent revolution and installed a dictatorship. Same in Cuba. Voting in places like Venezuela, Nicaragua, or Mexico have long had questionable practices in place meant to keep the establishment / dictatorship in power. Those are the valid examples. A free nation won't be for long if its election process is riddled with questionable practices and means.
    I will accept your tacit confession that Cheney wasn't talking about nations like Cuba.

    The Bolsheviks didn't establish a totalitarian dictatorship until after they eliminated all opposition. Which meant ignoring the free election of December 1917, and disbanding Russia's democratic legislature.

    When the Bolsheviks initially seized power, they claimed they were doing on behalf of the soviets, which were genuinely democratic municipal and national bodies representing workers, soldiers, peasants.

    Lenin's whole philosophy was that an elite vanguard would seize power from the provisional government by deception and subterfuge regarding their real motives.

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    That way you defend them for fear for yourself



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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    To paraphrase her at one point, she says to the effect that, 'questioning the validity of an election destroys free nations,' I'd ask her Which ones would those be?
    This one, if you jerks keep it up to the point where public confidence is lost.
    "Give pearls away and rubies but keep your fancy free."

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    So, questioning their elections made them into dictatorships hum? I'd say they and other nations like Venezuela, Nicaragua, Mexico under PRI, to name a few, all had their elections questioned continuously and it was an in place dictatorship that kept them from having fair and open elections. Liz Cheney has it backwards. Trump questioning an election isn't the threat. The threat is having questionable practices during an election. If you eliminate questionable practices, you eliminate people questioning the election.

    She's an idiot.
    You Trump stooges are the idiots.

    World class idiots.

    Gold medal idiots.
    ON HIS WORST DAY, JOE BIDEN IS A BETTER PRESIDENT THAN TRUMP WAS ON HIS BEST DAY!

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Maybe she should switch parties then.
    for all intents and purposes, she did some time ago.
    "Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." Joseph Stalin
    The USA has lost WWIV to China with no other weapons but China Virus and some cash to buy democrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    You Trump stooges are the idiots.

    World class idiots.

    Gold medal idiots.
    Yet, but please do not accuse Gardner of always defending Trump. It makes him made to point out the obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    To paraphrase her at one point, she says to the effect that, 'questioning the validity of an election destroys free nations,' I'd ask her Which ones would those be?
    Are you that brain dead or so unknowing to even ask such a stupid question?

    Dude, you graduated from HIGH SCHOOL- AND YOU DON'T ALREADY KNOW THAT RUSSIA IS THE BEST EXAMPLE OF WHAT SHE IS REFERRING TO!

    DO YOU HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT THE ELECTIONS IN RUSSIA ARE DEMOCRATIC, LEGITIMATE, OR FAIR?

    Dude- AFTER THIS QUESTION FROM YOU, I WILL FOREVER PUT YOU IN A DIMMER LIGHT.

    It seems you are just not very smart for even having to ask such a question!

    Here is what I honestly think about you- YOU ARE SUCH A SELF-CENTERED SELFISH HATEFUL PERSON- YOU HATE EVERYONE (Including Cheney} THAT DOES NOT PUT DONALD TRUMP UP ON THE SAME IDOL STAND- THE WAY YOU DO!



    If Trump is your idol- IN ANY WAY- YOU MAY WANT TO HAVE A LITTLE TALK WITH YOURSELF!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    Are you that brain dead or so unknowing to even ask such a stupid question?

    Dude, you graduated from HIGH SCHOOL- AND YOU DON:T ALREADY KNOW THAT RUSSIA IS THE BEST EXAMPLE OF WHAT SHE IS REFERRING TO!

    Dude- AFTER THIS QUESTION FROM YOU, I WILL FOREVER PUT YOU IN A DIMMER LIGHT.

    It seems you are just not very smart for even having to ask such a question!
    Gardner is not smart. He knows how to use English grammar, though. Puts him far above most right wingers on this forum.

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