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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    ALL of that is supplied by Chinese manufacturers/mineral processing
    ( we have some mines but cant process rare earths)

    It's a tax and spend boondoggle that does nothing to grow GDP or wealth for the USA.
    Instead it's a transfer of wealth to China..

    Dems are economic illiterates: tax and spending reduces inflation?? it's ludicrous
    I am not enough of an expert on the mining and processing of rare earth metals to posture as qualified to pass judgement.

    We definetly should join nations like China and Germany in making major public investments in clean energy manufacturing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    We need more of these "recessions" where unemployment is 3.5 percent, and there are more job openings than people to fill them
    No, we don't. Inflation above 9% is never good, Jimmy Carter proved that one. We need recovery where inflation doesn't steal the real wages of those in the poorest jobs.

    There may be a temporary bump because they see you waving your arms now and think you are alive, but when they realize they are poorer than ever there will be a red wave like none you have seen since Reagan's second term. Again, you get to pretend that things are going great, but the real world is still happening. If you really believe that 10% inflation is "great" because everybody has more than one job you must be a democrat. Everyone else knows that it sucks.
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    The oil and gas industry initially criticized the methane fee as it appeared in the Build Back Better bill as heaping undue financial burden on the sector. Fletcher and Veasey, who both sit on the influential Energy and Commerce Committee, wrote to party leaders last September echoing industry complaints.

    “The tax changes being proposed will further cut domestic production and endanger domestic refining capacity while increasing demand from the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries,” the Democrats wrote to House Democratic leadership on Sept. 13. Cuellar and Gonzalez also signed the letter, along with Allred; Rep. Sylvia Garcia, D-Houston; and then- Rep. Filemon Vela, D-Brownsville.

    Several of the biggest oil and gas industry groups, including the American Gas Association and the Independent Petroleum Association of America, sent a similar letter to congressional leadership about the methane fee the same day.
    https://www.texastribune.org/2022/08...e-oil-gas-ira/

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    So, it...

    Will raise energy prices by forcing the US to use more wind and solar. Subsidies for these, and battery cars, are nothing but bribes since they have on ROI and use fiat money.

    The huge subsidy for government run medical care is the same thing. No ROI using fiat money.

    The 15% minimum corporate tax is only an incentive for corporations to relocate elsewhere to avoid higher tax payments. What the Left thinks is a "fair share" and what some corporation thinks is a "fair share" are two entirely and radically different things.

    So, it's basically this:


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    You guys only know how to make messes



    Then the Democrats have to fix everything all over again



    Why should ANYONE Listen to you losers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    So, it...

    Will raise energy prices by forcing the US to use more wind and solar. Subsidies for these, and battery cars, are nothing but bribes since they have on ROI and use fiat money.

    The huge subsidy for government run medical care is the same thing. No ROI using fiat money.

    The 15% minimum corporate tax is only an incentive for corporations to relocate elsewhere to avoid higher tax payments. What the Left thinks is a "fair share" and what some corporation thinks is a "fair share" are two entirely and radically different things.

    So, it's basically this:




    You suck at predicting things idiot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    They tried to "redefine" recession so folks like you can pretend that we aren't in one. Do you believe that the definition is different for Brandon than it was for Bush? If you do, then you too may be a Democrat.
    We are in a recession, but it’s a strange one, with huge and growing employment and a booming housing market. Huge corporate profits.
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    LOCK HIM UP!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    No, we don't. Inflation above 9% is never good, Jimmy Carter proved that one. We need recovery where inflation doesn't steal the real wages of those in the poorest jobs.

    There may be a temporary bump because they see you waving your arms now and think you are alive, but when they realize they are poorer than ever there will be a red wave like none you have seen since Reagan's second term. Again, you get to pretend that things are going great, but the real world is still happening. If you really believe that 10% inflation is "great" because everybody has more than one job you must be a democrat. Everyone else knows that it sucks.
    Thanks to Republicans running some really poor candidates we will be lucky to win the Senate.

    Must have a lot of rich people on JPP with the way so many try to downplay inflation and it’s economic costs on people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Thanks to Republicans running some really poor candidates we will be lucky to win the Senate.

    Must have a lot of rich people on JPP with the way so many try to downplay inflation and it’s economic costs on people.
    The war in Ukraine caused the inflation



    It’s world wide you lying shit hole


    You have no honor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    We are in a recession, but it’s a strange one, with huge and growing employment and a booming housing market. Huge corporate profits.
    Booming housing market? New home starts are way down and in many markets the number of offers and prices on homes have dropped. That’s not to say the housing market is falling apart, it’s not. But with higher interest rates etc it’s not booming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Booming housing market? New home starts are way down and in many markets the number of offers and prices on homes have dropped. That’s not to say the housing market is falling apart, it’s not. But with higher interest rates etc it’s not booming.
    You wanted inflation trimmed remember hypocrite

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    All of you on the right not only didn’t foresee the biggest crash of our generation




    You trashed everyone who saw it coming




    Fuck you all



    You suck at economic predictions

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