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    Default Women Having To Flee States With Insane Restrictions on Abortions

    The young woman’s waters broke when she was 19 weeks pregnant. The doctors told her the baby stood no chance of surviving, but that if the pregnancy continued the woman risked an infection, which might lead to sepsis and kill her. They could not perform an abortion, though. Months earlier Texas, where she lived, had passed a law banning terminations after detection of a fetal heartbeat unless there was danger “of death or a serious risk of substantial impairment of a major bodily function”. This wording worried the doctors: if they did an abortion while she still appeared healthy and the baby had a heartbeat, they could be prosecuted. They suggested she fly to Colorado instead.
    https://www.economist.com/united-sta...ks-set-to-rise

    We will already have the worst maternal mortality rate in the industrial world. Where a typical country has three mortality out of 100,000 live births, while the USA has a mortality rate of 17 (more than five times higher). States like Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi and Tennessee, are becoming illegal, already had mortality rates above 30. They will get much worse.

    There are about 3.6 million births per year in the USA. If the mortality rate goes up by 10, there will be 3,600 more women that die. If you think abortion is murder, that might not be a lot of deaths. There might be about 600,000 abortions per year, and anti-abortion laws in some states might reduce the number of abortions by 10%. That would be 60,000 fetuses (or "unborn babies" as the Republicans call them). Maybe 3,600 women dying is worth saving 60,000...

    But we should not lie. This is going to kill women.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    https://www.economist.com/united-sta...ks-set-to-rise

    We will already have the worst maternal mortality rate in the industrial world. Where a typical country has three mortality out of 100,000 live births, while the USA has a mortality rate of 17 (more than five times higher). States like Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi and Tennessee, are becoming illegal, already had mortality rates above 30. They will get much worse.

    There are about 3.6 million births per year in the USA. If the mortality rate goes up by 10, there will be 3,600 more women that die. If you think abortion is murder, that might not be a lot of deaths. There might be about 600,000 abortions per year, and anti-abortion laws in some states might reduce the number of abortions by 10%. That would be 60,000 fetuses (or "unborn babies" as the Republicans call them). Maybe 3,600 women dying is worth saving 60,000...

    But we should not lie. This is going to kill women.
    you're conflating two differing things.

    this means you're an idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    https://www.economist.com/united-sta...ks-set-to-rise

    We will already have the worst maternal mortality rate in the industrial world. Where a typical country has three mortality out of 100,000 live births, while the USA has a mortality rate of 17 (more than five times higher). States like Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi and Tennessee, are becoming illegal, already had mortality rates above 30. They will get much worse.

    There are about 3.6 million births per year in the USA. If the mortality rate goes up by 10, there will be 3,600 more women that die. If you think abortion is murder, that might not be a lot of deaths. There might be about 600,000 abortions per year, and anti-abortion laws in some states might reduce the number of abortions by 10%. That would be 60,000 fetuses (or "unborn babies" as the Republicans call them). Maybe 3,600 women dying is worth saving 60,000...

    But we should not lie. This is going to kill women.
    can they just not fuck everyone at the bar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    https://www.economist.com/united-sta...ks-set-to-rise

    We will already have the worst maternal mortality rate in the industrial world. Where a typical country has three mortality out of 100,000 live births, while the USA has a mortality rate of 17 (more than five times higher). States like Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi and Tennessee, are becoming illegal, already had mortality rates above 30. They will get much worse.

    There are about 3.6 million births per year in the USA. If the mortality rate goes up by 10, there will be 3,600 more women that die. If you think abortion is murder, that might not be a lot of deaths. There might be about 600,000 abortions per year, and anti-abortion laws in some states might reduce the number of abortions by 10%. That would be 60,000 fetuses (or "unborn babies" as the Republicans call them). Maybe 3,600 women dying is worth saving 60,000...

    But we should not lie. This is going to kill women.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    you're conflating two differing things.

    this means you're an idiot.
    Outlawing abortions in many states will make an already horrible maternal mortality rate much worse. Women will die. There is no getting around that.

    The only defense I can think of is that fetuses will be saved. I really do not see a blob as cells to be more important than a living human being, but if you do, there is some defense of killing these women.

    That being said, stop lying and saying this is not going to kill women. Women will die from this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Outlawing abortions in many states will make an already horrible maternal mortality rate much worse. Women will die. There is no getting around that.

    The only defense I can think of is that fetuses will be saved. I really do not see a blob as cells to be more important than a living human being, but if you do, there is some defense of killing these women.

    That being said, stop lying and saying this is not going to kill women. Women will die from this.
    i don't think your data supports that conclusion.
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    Abortion isn't the issue. The issue is individual liberty.

    Some support it. Some don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    i don't think your data supports that conclusion.
    You are not dealing in reality.
    Daniel Patrick Moynihan said it best, "You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Outlawing abortions in many states will make an already horrible maternal mortality rate much worse. Women will die. There is no getting around that.

    The only defense I can think of is that fetuses will be saved. I really do not see a blob as cells to be more important than a living human being, but if you do, there is some defense of killing these women.

    That being said, stop lying and saying this is not going to kill women. Women will die from this.
    Jewish law
    The fetus is not viewed as separate from the parent’s body until birth begins and the first breath of
    oxygen into the lungs allows the soul to enter the body.

    Judaism explicitly state that abortion is not only permitted but is required should the pregnancy endanger the life or health
    of the pregnant individual. Furthermore, “health” is commonly interpreted to encompass psychological health as well as physical health.

    So now instead of choice we now have christofascism
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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    Jewish law
    The fetus is not viewed as separate from the parent’s body until birth begins and the first breath of
    oxygen into the lungs allows the soul to enter the body.

    Judaism explicitly state that abortion is not only permitted but is required should the pregnancy endanger the life or health
    of the pregnant individual. Furthermore, “health” is commonly interpreted to encompass psychological health as well as physical health.

    So now instead of choice we now have christofascism
    yes,
    but in science, life begins at conception.

    that's biology not myth.

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    Fetus-worshipping misogynist theocrat Republicans are doing their best to establish Christian Taliban rule.

    They should all be rounded up as enemies of our secular republic.
    None should be spared.
    We can now plainly see that genocide can be justified and, in some cases, may be necessary to preserve human decency.
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    all the women who want to kill their children should move to states that let them do it.........
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    Embryos and fetuses are not children.

    People who insist that they are all need to be dealt with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Outlawing abortions in many states will make an already horrible maternal mortality rate much worse. Women will die. There is no getting around that.

    The only defense I can think of is that fetuses will be saved. I really do not see a blob as cells to be more important than a living human being, but if you do, there is some defense of killing these women.

    That being said, stop lying and saying this is not going to kill women. Women will die from this.
    Unborn children have died, by the millions, Walter.

    "Flee."

    Yes, you are an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    all the women who want to kill their children should move to states that let them do it.........
    All the men who want to kill women should move to states that let them do it.
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