Originally Posted by
Walt
There are a bunch of silly, wrong assumptions there. We should start with "assuming that all of the deaths occurred to women who received no medical intervention." That is the exact opposite of reality. First, women with the worst symptoms (the ones most likely to lead to death) are the most likely to seek treatment. But even those who do not seek treatment, can only be pronounced dead by a doctor, which is considered treatment.
As an example, let us look at a woman bleeding out. She is screaming in pain, and losing huge amounts of blood. Even in the USA, people will call 911 at this point, not caring about the large copayment. Treatment begins, but is not in time, and she dies. You may say what if they ignore the massive amount of blood pouring out of her. In that case, she dies, but death cannot be legally declared until treatment begins by a doctor. To believe women are dying and not being treated, we would have to believe that no one is noticing a dead woman. For the most part the symptom of death is noticed.
Speaking as a husband, I will sometimes ignore my wife complaining about cramps, but I will notice if she is actually dead. The lack of movement for a long time is a noticeable symptom.
So during Roe v. Wade, there were three possible outcomes:
1) The symptoms were not bad enough that the woman sought treatment, and whatever damage was done to her body, short of death.
2) The symptoms were bad enough that the woman sought treatment, and the doctors did whatever they could to reduce the damage to her body, and death did not follow.
3) The symptoms were bad enough that the woman sought treatment, and the doctors failed to save her life.
With the demise of Roe v. Wade, there is a fourth option:
4) The symptoms are bad enough that the woman seeks treatment, but the doctors can legally do nothing for her.
Note there is no option that ends with a live birth. An abortion saves the woman damage to her body in all these cases, but in none of these cases prevents a live birth.
Which is why we should be seeking more treatment (abortions) in cases of ectopic pregnancy, rather than less. It will mean more live births, because fewer women will be rendered infertile.
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