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    Default Is fascism left wing?

    Various conservative authorities at JPP have told us so. But now that thereís a real prospect of fascists coming to power in Italy (again), RWNJs are drooling over it!




    Dmitry Medvedev - former Russian president and Putin puppet - has crowed over prime minister Draghiís fall. He expects that more pro-Ukrainian leaders like Johnson and Draghi could soon be forced out of power.
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-ne...s-putins-hands


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    Various conservative authorities at JPP have told us so. But now that there’s a real prospect of fascists coming to power in Italy (again), RWNJs are drooling over it!




    Dmitry Medvedev - former Russian president and Putin puppet - has crowed over prime minister Draghi’s fall. He expects that more pro-Ukrainian leaders like Johnson and Draghi could soon be forced out of power.
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-ne...s-putins-hands


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    I watched the video. Explain to me, with examples, why those cited in the video are "fascists." What exact things make them "fascist?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    Various conservative authorities at JPP have told us so. But now that there’s a real prospect of fascists coming to power in Italy (again), RWNJs are drooling over it!




    Dmitry Medvedev - former Russian president and Putin puppet - has crowed over prime minister Draghi’s fall. He expects that more pro-Ukrainian leaders like Johnson and Draghi could soon be forced out of power.
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-ne...s-putins-hands


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    NAZIs vs Communist, which one is left which one is right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    Various conservative authorities at JPP have told us so. But now that there’s a real prospect of fascists coming to power in Italy (again), RWNJs are drooling over it!




    Dmitry Medvedev - former Russian president and Putin puppet - has crowed over prime minister Draghi’s fall. He expects that more pro-Ukrainian leaders like Johnson and Draghi could soon be forced out of power.
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-ne...s-putins-hands


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    Fascism is a form of socialism. It is government manipulation of markets. It is theft of wealth. Like communism (government ownership of markets), and slavery (ownership of men), socialism brings misery. It can only be implemented by tyrannical governments such as oligarchies and dictatorships. People don't like their wealth being stolen.

    Neither communism, fascism, slavery, nor capitalism are a form of government.

    Capitalism, which is the voluntary production of products and services for voluntary purchase, is the only economic system that creates wealth. Socialism could not exist without it, since socialism doesn't create anything (other than misery). It needs capitalism creating wealth so socialism can steal it.

    Democrats support fascism. They have discarded the Constitution of the United States, committed election fraud to the point of faulting the election, and installed Biden as Chief Puppet.
    As to Italy, the conservatives there are facing the same nonsense BS from the Democrats. It is the DEMOCRATS that are fascist. It is the DEMOCRATS that embrace socialism. It is DEMOCRATS projecting what they are onto conservatives. That's an inversion fallacy, dude.

    Remember, Italy is NOT an independent state. It is part of the European Union. The form of government of the EU is an oligarchy, more or less following a document known as the Lisbon Treaty. The form of government within Italy itself is an oligarchy. They more or less follow a 'constitution', which isn't a constitution, since the government itself can change it at will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Republicans are honoring Poland new facist today
    You don't even know what the word means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defender of Honor View Post
    NAZIs vs Communist, which one is left which one is right?
    There are no Nazis. The Nazi party was destroyed during WW2. I assume you mean 'fascist'.

    They are both forms of socialism. Both are 'left', or favored by Democrats.
    Fascism is government manipulation of markets.
    Communism is government ownership of markets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Fascism is a form of socialism. It is government manipulation of markets. It is theft of wealth. Like communism (government ownership of markets), and slavery (ownership of men), socialism brings misery. It can only be implemented by tyrannical governments such as oligarchies and dictatorships. People don't like their wealth being stolen.

    Neither communism, fascism, slavery, nor capitalism are a form of government.

    Capitalism, which is the voluntary production of products and services for voluntary purchase, is the only economic system that creates wealth. Socialism could not exist without it, since socialism doesn't create anything (other than misery). It needs capitalism creating wealth so socialism can steal it.

    Democrats support fascism. They have discarded the Constitution of the United States, committed election fraud to the point of faulting the election, and installed Biden as Chief Puppet.
    As to Italy, the conservatives there are facing the same nonsense BS from the Democrats. It is the DEMOCRATS that are fascist. It is the DEMOCRATS that embrace socialism. It is DEMOCRATS projecting what they are onto conservatives. That's an inversion fallacy, dude.

    Remember, Italy is NOT an independent state. It is part of the European Union. The form of government of the EU is an oligarchy, more or less following a document known as the Lisbon Treaty. The form of government within Italy itself is an oligarchy. They more or less follow a 'constitution', which isn't a constitution, since the government itself can change it at will.
    Fascism is also a political system where the State controls society in minute detail. Some examples of how this might occur in a country run by a fascist government:

    All private education is outlawed or severely restricted with strict oversight by the state. Public education is the only system allowed.
    Social scoring systems are in place. Your correct behavior and allegiance to the state are monitored.
    Social norms are required, such as a dress code, heavy regulation of any vice to include smoking, drinking, etc.
    The state wants to raise your children in place of you. That is, your child must go to daycare, then to a public school, then to approved group activities, etc.
    Public transit is pushed heavily because the state controls it.
    If worker's unions are allowed, they are heavily political and hew to the state dogma. They expect their members to do the same.

    Those are typical things a fascist government would do politically to control society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    There are no Nazis. The Nazi party was destroyed during WW2. I assume you mean 'fascist'.

    They are both forms of socialism. Both are 'left', or favored by Democrats.
    Fascism is government manipulation of markets.
    Communism is government ownership of markets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Fascism is also a political system where the State controls society in minute detail. Some examples of how this might occur in a country run by a fascist government:

    All private education is outlawed or severely restricted with strict oversight by the state. Public education is the only system allowed.
    Social scoring systems are in place. Your correct behavior and allegiance to the state are monitored.
    Social norms are required, such as a dress code, heavy regulation of any vice to include smoking, drinking, etc.
    The state wants to raise your children in place of you. That is, your child must go to daycare, then to a public school, then to approved group activities, etc.
    Public transit is pushed heavily because the state controls it.
    If worker's unions are allowed, they are heavily political and hew to the state dogma. They expect their members to do the same.

    Those are typical things a fascist government would do politically to control society.
    Fascism is not a political system. It is an economic system. It is government manipulation of markets. It can occur in a variety of political systems, including oligarchies and dictatorships.
    What you are describing is communism, another form of socialism. That is government ownership of markets.

    In this case, you are describing government ownership of education, clothing, daycare, and unions. You are also confusing communism with the government structure necessary to implement it, an oligarchy or dictatorship. People don't like their wealth being stolen, so tyranny is necessary.


    Communism is not fascism, but they ARE both forms of socialism, and as such, theft of wealth.

    Just what is happening with the Democrats today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defender of Honor View Post
    Wrong! America has Nazis! Most are Trump supporters! Right wing fascist
    Nope. The Nazi party was destroyed in WW2, and this isn't Germany. Fascism is a form of socialism. Democrats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Nope. The Nazi party was destroyed in WW2, and this isn't Germany. Fascism is a form of socialism. Democrats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Fascism is not a political system. It is an economic system. It is government manipulation of markets. It can occur in a variety of political systems, including oligarchies and dictatorships.
    What you are describing is communism, another form of socialism. That is government ownership of markets.

    In this case, you are describing government ownership of education, clothing, daycare, and unions. You are also confusing communism with the government structure necessary to implement it, an oligarchy or dictatorship. People don't like their wealth being stolen, so tyranny is necessary.


    Communism is not fascism, but they ARE both forms of socialism, and as such, theft of wealth.

    Just what is happening with the Democrats today.
    The big difference between Communism and Fascism in social / political policy is that Communism is internationalist in outlook. That is, it wants a One-World-Government. Fascism on the other hand, is nationalist. That is, it seeks to establish an exclusionary state based on race, language, culture, etc. Both are types of political and economic systems that hail from the radical Left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Fascism is also a political system where the State controls society in minute detail. Some examples of how this might occur in a country run by a fascist government:

    All private education is outlawed or severely restricted with strict oversight by the state. Public education is the only system allowed.
    Social scoring systems are in place. Your correct behavior and allegiance to the state are monitored.
    Social norms are required, such as a dress code, heavy regulation of any vice to include smoking, drinking, etc.
    The state wants to raise your children in place of you. That is, your child must go to daycare, then to a public school, then to approved group activities, etc.
    Public transit is pushed heavily because the state controls it.
    If worker's unions are allowed, they are heavily political and hew to the state dogma. They expect their members to do the same.

    Those are typical things a fascist government would do politically to control society.
    This sounds like a totalitarian system because nothing distinguishes it from other totalitarian systems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    This sounds like a totalitarian system because nothing distinguishes it from other totalitarian systems.
    Its distinguishing characteristic is that Fascism is nationalist. Communism is internationalist. Both are Leftwing, both result in dictatorships.

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