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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Time for the great spaghetti monster to inspire lots of talking like a pirate on game day
    And noone will give a shit it is only militant atheists who opposes free exercise of religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoresy View Post
    The only one advocating for the elimination of civil liberties here is you you goosestepping little faggot.
    Wear the colander on your head and beg to be touched by his noodley appendage so you me be forgiven



    Arrrge

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    That's not a real religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoresy View Post
    And noone will give a shit it is only militant atheists who opposes free exercise of religion.
    What exactly do you know about religion. Its only a means to an end for u, sweetie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    The establishment clause prohibits government from helping or hindering religion. In this case the government (school) wanted to stop the coach from public prayer. The court ruled he was exercising his free religion/speech. Government did nothing to promote religious activities.
    The kids were pressured to participate; this was not just an individual praying on his own. The praying was done publicly, giving the impression that the school (the government) was endorsing a particular religion. Since it is now apparently okay to have religious actions on campus, that means the Muslims, the Wiccans, the Jews, the snake-handlers -- *everyone* who wants to use the school property for religious expression is free to do so.
    "Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoresy View Post
    That's not a real religion.
    You are not the decider


    The great big balls of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is the decider

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoresy View Post
    And noone will give a shit it is only militant atheists who opposes free exercise of religion.
    The founders had some ideas about such thing remember

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    The court’s 6-to-3 conservative majority disagreed, insisting that Kennedy’s act of praying was protected by the First Amendment.

    This decision was a mistake — not because public schools should be devoid of any religious expression but because students should not feel pressure from their teachers, administrators or coaches either to be or not to be religious, let alone subscribe to a particular faith.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...l-coach-wrong/

    The irony of the decision is that it reduces religion to formal rituals. Being forced or intimidated to participate in a religion ritual, for the Court, is innocuous.
    Should they prevent prayer rooms for muslims?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    You're saying that the coach could stand there and mentally pray to himself. Or stage a group on the football field in overt form of Christian prayer. And the two are equivalent?!
    Does it matter that it was a Christian prayer? It is legally equivalent if the others voluntarily joined the prayer. The point is that in this case the government was not promoting but opposing his activity so there was no establishment violation. The government made an effort to stop his prayer so any perceptions of coercion would be stopped.

    That seemed like an issue between the coach and school district. He left because he did not accept their decision. Which governmental entity violated the establishment clause?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Does it matter that it was a Christian prayer? It is legally equivalent if the others voluntarily joined the prayer. The point is that in this case the government was not promoting but opposing his activity so there was no establishment violation. The government made an effort to stop his prayer so any perceptions of coercion would be stopped.

    That seemed like an issue between the coach and school district. He left because he did not accept their decision. Which governmental entity violated the establishment clause?
    I always wonder why people who want to force religion on others think it good for others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    I always wonder why people who want to force religion on others think it good for others.
    Who wants to force it on others? I think testimony showed players and others joined him voluntarily. Relatively few people actually participated so it didn't seem forced. Because of that concern the school district ordered him to stop and he left his job.

    I have not yet read the decision itself. Often, the case contains information not included in media coverage which helps understand the reasoning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Who wants to force it on others? I think testimony showed players and others joined him voluntarily. Relatively few people actually participated so it didn't seem forced. Because of that concern the school district ordered him to stop and he left his job.

    I have not yet read the decision itself. Often, the case contains information not included in media coverage which helps understand the reasoning.
    I don't get why he needs to make a spectacle of himself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    I don't get why he needs to make a spectacle of himself?
    It is none of our business--he has the same free speech as we do. Be tolerant of others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    Should they prevent prayer rooms for muslims?
    The football stadium is a prayer room?

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