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    Default The Kansas State Constitution does NOT guarantee a right to abortion.

    It's the same as roe v wade 50 years ago. The Kansas court just made it all up . Their 2019 ruling says "pursuit of happiness" means right to abortion!!

    https://www.kcur.org/2019-04-26/kans...ht-to-abortion

    april 26 2019 The Kansas Constitution protects a woman's right to an abortion, the state Supreme Court ruled Friday.

    The landmark ruling now stands as the law of the land in Kansas with no path for an appeal. Because it turns on the state's Constitution, abortion would remain legal in Kansas even if the Roe v. Wade case that established a national right to abortion is ever reversed by the U.S. Supreme Court.

    The decision turbocharged efforts among conservative legislators to ask voters to add an abortion ban to the Kansas Constitution. Lawmakers return to the capital, Topeka, next week.

    The decision, in which one of the seven justices dissented, cites in its first sentence the first section of the Kansas Constitution's Bill of Rights: "All men are possessed of equal and inalienable natural rights, among which are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."

    The decision continues: "We are now asked: 'Is this declaration of rights more than an idealized aspiration? And, if so, do the substantive rights include a woman's right to make decisions about her body, including the decision whether to continue her pregnancy? We answer these questions, 'Yes.' "

    The court continued that "this right allows a woman to make her own decisions regarding her body, health, family formation, and family life — decisions that can include whether to continue a pregnancy
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    The court also used the "my body my choice" argument but that has been voided after the vax mandates of the last couple years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    The court also used the "my body my choice" argument but that has been voided after the vax mandates of the last couple years.
    What mandates?

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    Don’t think anyone would believe a state constitution authored in the 19th Century specifically protected the right to an abortion. The right has always been inferred from language like that in the Kansas Constitution. You can bet politicians in Kansas will be in no hurry to seek a Constitutional amendment voiding abortion rights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by martin View Post
    Don’t think anyone would believe a state constitution authored in the 19th Century specifically protected the right to an abortion. Constitutions mean what Supreme Courts say they mean. You can bet politicians in Kansas will be in no hurry to seek a Constitutional amendment voiding abortion rights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    The court also used the "my body my choice" argument but that has been voided after the vax mandates of the last couple years.
    The court ruled in early 1900s a state can require vaccinations because not doing so could spread disease to others. A woman getting an abortion does not spread harm to others.

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    The state legislature could limit abortion to within a certain time period. After all, even Roe did not prohibit abortions after 24 weeks, so women did not control their own bodies after that period. It only provided a right to an abortion until viability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    The court ruled in early 1900s a state can require vaccinations because not doing so could spread disease to others. A woman getting an abortion does not spread harm to others.
    That's irrelevant. The "my body my choice" argument means that if you say abortion must be legal, then you must say no to the vax mandates. THINK
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    Default The Kansas State Constitution does NOT guarantee a right to abortion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    It's the same as roe v wade 50 years ago. The Kansas court just made it all up . Their 2019 ruling says "pursuit of happiness" means right to abortion!!
    BWWWWAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

    Look who thinks he knows more about the Kansas Constitution than the Kansas Supreme Court!!!!!

    Moron.
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    C'MON MAN!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    That's irrelevant. The "my body my choice" argument means that if you say abortion must be legal, then you must say no to the vax mandates. THINK
    Or, if you say no to the vax mandates you must think women have the right to an abortion.

    I don't really accept the hands off my body argument. Under Roe states could prohibit abortion after 24 weeks--therefore, Roe did not prevent government from controlling women's bodies after a certain time. Government can tell me I can't use certain drugs--that seems to be controlling my body.

    If women have the right (rather than freedom) of abortion doesn't that give them a right men do not have?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    It's the same as roe v wade 50 years ago. The Kansas court just made it all up . Their 2019 ruling says "pursuit of happiness" means right to abortion!!
    How long have I been telling you that Constitutional America is dead.....it was murder?
    This illegal illegitimate regime that runs America is at fault...not me.... they do not represent me and I have long objected to their crimes against humanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    It's the same as roe v wade 50 years ago. The Kansas court just made it all up . Their 2019 ruling says "pursuit of happiness" means right to abortion!!
    The amendment failed. You lose. Haters of women will always lose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    The court also used the "my body my choice" argument but that has been voided after the vax mandates of the last couple years.
    Keeping your community safe by being vaccinated is not an invasion of anyone's rights. Its about protecting your community. You pervert it into an anti-abortion argument.

    Typical, right-wing fascist.
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    The Republican Party is in shambles
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