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    Default 10th amendment says congress CANNOT legalize abortion!!!

    Congress is talking about codifying abortion but the 10A says they can't

    ''The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. "

    https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_Am10.html
    Since the constitution never mentions or implies anything about abortion it is a state matter - as it always had been prior to 1973. Federal congress cannot legalize abortion or ban it for that matter or do anything about it.
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    Of course, the Democrats discard the Constitution. They want the 'federal government' to legalize abortion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Of course, the Democrats discard the Constitution. They want the 'federal government' to legalize abortion.
    Indeed. They want to federally mandate all behavior that they approve of and federally ban all behavior that they disapprove of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    Indeed. They want to federally mandate all behavior that they approve of and federally ban all behavior that they disapprove of.
    It's easier to rule from a central location. The Democrats view the 'federal government' as the controlling oligarchy, and the State governments are just bureaucrats to help push the parchment around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    Congress is talking about codifying abortion but the 10A says they can't



    Since the constitution never mentions or implies anything about abortion it is a state matter - as it always had been prior to 1973. Federal congress cannot legalize abortion or ban it for that matter or do anything about it.
    You see it backwards, freedom to make medical decisions for oneself is a restriction on the government, not a right granted to it. R. v. W. restricted the government from taking that freedom from the people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    Indeed. They want to federally mandate all behavior that they approve of and federally ban all behavior that they disapprove of.
    Seems like you christofascists are the ones taking choice away and mandating forced birth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    It's easier to rule from a central location. The Democrats view the 'federal government' as the controlling oligarchy, and the State governments are just bureaucrats to help push the parchment around.
    The government FEd or State should be restricted from making medical decisions for anyone, the Constitution did not grant that power to any government.

    Its a right retained by THE PEOPLE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    Congress is talking about codifying abortion but the 10A says they can't



    Since the constitution never mentions or implies anything about abortion it is a state matter - as it always had been prior to 1973. Federal congress cannot legalize abortion or ban it for that matter or do anything about it.
    Check the 9th, they were talking about things not mentioned (like the right to privacy (freedom) when they wrote it...

    “The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.”

    Note that it says RETAINED BY THE PEOPLE, not THE STATES!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    Congress is talking about codifying abortion but the 10A says they can't



    Since the constitution never mentions or implies anything about abortion it is a state matter - as it always had been prior to 1973. Federal congress cannot legalize abortion or ban it for that matter or do anything about it.
    You must be reading from the Trumpian Constitution
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    You see it backwards, freedom to make medical decisions for oneself is a restriction on the government, not a right granted to it. R. v. W. restricted the government from taking that freedom from the people.
    R v W was itself unconstitutional. The federal government has NO power or authority to legalize abortion or ban it.

    Abortion is not a 'medical decision'. It's murder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    Seems like you christofascists are the ones taking choice away and mandating forced birth
    Christianity is not fascism. Christianity does not condone murder. See the Ten Commandments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    The government FEd or State should be restricted from making medical decisions for anyone, the Constitution did not grant that power to any government.

    Its a right retained by THE PEOPLE.
    Not quite right. You are denying federalism again.

    The Constitution of the United States, as you correctly state, does not give authority to the United States government to make any medical decision. Some State constitutions, however, DO give authority to the State involved to make certain medical decisions. If a State constitution does not give a specific authority, then that State has NO authority in that area. It goes to the people.

    That said, States are very explicit about murder, which is what abortion is, and they DO have that authority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Check the 9th, they were talking about things not mentioned (like the right to privacy (freedom) when they wrote it...

    “The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.”

    Note that it says RETAINED BY THE PEOPLE, not THE STATES!
    Murder is not a right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trumpet View Post
    You must be reading from the Trumpian Constitution
    No. The Constitution of the United States, which you deny and discard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    R v W was itself unconstitutional. The federal government has NO power or authority to legalize abortion or ban it.

    Abortion is not a 'medical decision'. It's murder.
    Neither the states or the fed have the power to ban abortions due to Americans right to freedom. (aka privacy) The right to make those type of decisions is retained by the PEOPLE according to the 9th Amendment of the Untied States Constitution.
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