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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    nope, its all about whether women have the ability to kill their unborn children......
    This is the anti-freedom, anti-life shit that you support. Fortunately for us, you are in the minority.

    "I found out halfway through the pregnancy that the baby my husband and I hoped for, suffered from a rare and life-limiting genetic condition," says Mazur. "We ultimately made the compassionate choice to end the pregnancy for my well-being, and for the well-being of our family, and the life of what we thought would be our child."

    Devastated, Mazur turned to a national online support group where others were experiencing the same loss. But unlike her, many in the group said they were having a tough time finding a way to terminate their pregnancies.

    Parents were "sharing...the shame and the stigma surrounding it," she says. "It really broke my heart that you're going through this already devastating experience, but have to travel far away from your home across the country...[and] advocate for yourself like crazy just to get care that you have decided with your doctor is best for you."
    In Michigan, the future of abortion rights could soon be up to voters
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    The people should not have had to do it, because our United States Constitution is based on limited government, even if the majority wants to take some freedoms away, they cant do it. Its called limited government.
    Well sadly SCOTUS didn't feel the need to consult you. I am fairly certain that several other states may go the same way, meaning that most women would not be more than a state away from a clinic. I also think that considering that the majority of abortions matter in the first trimester then chemical become the norm like it is already in the UK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primavera View Post
    They had a referendum and the people voted to keep abortion, isn't that democracy in action?
    Yes. It is. Now let's see all the other Red states put abortion on the ballot. They won't because the gerrymandered districts means the religious minority are in control of the legislatures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    Its all about women having the ability to control their own bodies. November is gonna be ugly for you.
    If u have control of your body...why cant u sell one of your kidneys?


    Why cant 18 yo legally buy ciggs and put smoke in THEIR body's

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    /shrugs......that doesn't mean that it supercedes the right of the unborn child to continue living.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    Think about the decision a physician needs to make in Idaho.(for example) He has sworn to do no harm, and yet he is breaking the law if he performs an abortion that saves the life of the mother.

    That's where these fucking idiots have taken our country. They must be so proud.
    Some states are going as far as criminalizing a medical procedure to the point where both the physician *and* the patient can be punished.

    But yeah, freedumb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    If u have control of your body...why cant u sell one of your kidneys?


    Why cant 18 yo legally buy ciggs and put smoke in THEIR body's
    Selling is commerce.

    Has nothing to do with health or body control.

    Minors do not have the right to do anything they want to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Some states are going as far as criminalizing a medical procedure to the point where both the physician *and* the patient can be punished.

    But yeah, freedumb.
    Plenty of need for doctors in other states.

    They should leave these backwards red states en masse.

    Let the idiot rubes provide their own healthcare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primavera View Post
    Well sadly SCOTUS didn't feel the need to consult you. I am fairly certain that several other states may go the same way, meaning that most women would not be more than a state away from a clinic. I also think that considering that the majority of abortions matter in the first trimester then chemical become the norm like it is already in the UK.
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    I suspect every state that has direct ballot access to their constitution will go this way.

    If Kansas went this way by such a large margin most will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Selling is commerce.

    Has nothing to do with health or body control.

    Minors do not have the right to do anything they want to?
    A 100% healthy pregnant 18 year old getting an abortion has nothing to do with health.. could be just because she wants to go on the planned cruse in 8 months



    Minors do not have the right to do anything they want to?


    So a 16 17 yo should not get an abortion without parents consent

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Do you think they will? Or do they need to wait for a case to come before them involving someone who was denied treatment due to DeathSantis's denial of freedom?
    Its a right to privacy in Florida, not a direct right to Abortion, so they can balance the right to privacy with the right to life, like R v. W.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    Think about the decision a physician needs to make in Idaho.(for example) He has sworn to do no harm, and yet he is breaking the law if he performs an abortion that saves the life of the mother.

    That's where these fucking idiots have taken our country. They must be so proud.
    Shameful
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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    A 100% healthy pregnant 18 year old getting an abortion has nothing to do with health..

    Of course it does.

    If she's not mentally ready to give birth to a child, it could negatively affect her psychological health which in turn, could affect her physical health.

    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post

    Minors do not have the right to do anything they want to?


    So a 16 17 yo should not get an abortion without parents consent
    I'm OK with that requirement unless the girl can demonstrate that it would somehow put her at risk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    /shrugs......that doesn't mean that it supercedes the right of the unborn child to continue living.......
    Find a way for a week 0 to week whatever fetus to be viable without the mother, then we'll talk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Plenty of need for doctors in other states.

    They should leave these backwards red states en masse.

    Let the idiot rubes provide their own healthcare.
    The poor red states will just sink further into poverty and decay, it is sad.
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