First Jan. 6 defendant convicted at trial receives longest sentence of 7 years

[BidenPresident]

He can still become president as a convicted felon.

No he cannot.

[BidenPresident]

Maybe, but we defeated any attempt to stop the electoral count and successfully declared a new president who is not serving in office. Any coup attempt was a failure. If he does anything else dangerous he can be stopped again. If any danger exists you don't remove the danger by just prosecuting Trump. He can still become president as a convicted felon.

§2383. Rebellion or insurrection
Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

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[Doc Dutch]

We will deal with those dangers as they arise--there is nothing we can do now to stop them.

Sure there is. That's what the courts are all about.

[Flash]

§2383. Rebellion or insurrection
Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

This has been discussed many times on JPP. The problem is that "incite" is a very difficult thing to prove. It is like some of our JPP conspiracy theory people who want Ray Epps convicted for inciting the riot. His actions do not come close.

Even if Trump is convicted that does not mean he is no longer a danger. He is not going to prison.

[BidenPresident]

This has been discussed many times on JPP.

So?

[Flash]

Sure there is. That's what the courts are all about.

That does not stop potential danger. We can only hope Americans will come to their senses and turn against violent actions--but both the right and left have done that for years. The left in the 60's and 70's and the right in recent years.

[Flash]

So?

So we learned all of the elements required to convict somebody of "inciting" a violent action and it is difficult to convict Trump of meeting all those elements.

If not, he will be charged and convicted---we can only wait and see.

Both sides are always overly optimistic that their side will win elections and find the other other side guilty of criminal actions. They are also overly pessimistic about the damage the other side will impose on the country.

[BidenPresident]

So we learned all of the elements required to convict somebody of "inciting" a violent action and it is d.

Seditious conspiracy. What the Jan 6 accused Trump of in the very first hearing.

[ExpressLane]

Trump attempted a violent coup.

You are delusional.

[Doc Dutch]

That does not stop potential danger. We can only hope Americans will come to their senses and turn against violent actions--but both the right and left have done that for years. The left in the 60's and 70's and the right in recent years.

The Left was violent before and during Trump's administration. The potential is there for more LW violence. That said, I think RW violence is the greatest danger facing most Americans.

Agreed on hope and I think most Americans have a good sense of right and wrong. They know bigotry is wrong, hatred is wrong and violence is wrong. Only the nutjobs and autocrats favor violence.

[Doc Dutch]

You are delusional.

The facts bear out that's exactly what Donald J. Trump did. Only Trumpian cocksuckers and Pedo Don fans think he's innocent of attempting to overthrow the election and crown himself President-for-Life.

Had Trump succeeded, what do think the US would look like in 2025? Trump still President with Junior his VP? No VP but with Junior as his Heir Apparent?

[Flash]

Seditious conspiracy. What the Jan 6 accused Trump of in the very first hearing.

Accused but not charged or convicted. That is much harder to accomplish. We do not jail somebody because we think their actions are criminal. Understanding the law is not the same as supporting or opposing the cause.

[BidenPresident]

Accused but not charged or convicted.

Seems obvious to me.

[Flash]

Seems obvious to me.

We have a criminal justice system to determine what is guilt. What partisans believe is obvious is not justice.

Was it obvious Hillary was guilty of crimes involving email? All the Republicans did.

[BidenPresident]

We have a criminal justice system to determine what is guilt. What partisans believe is obvious is not justice.

Was it obvious Hillary was guilty of crimes involving email? All the Republicans did.

DOJ is investigating Trump.